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    Topic about JUST,YET,ALREADY,NEVER

    So are they normal in BrE?

    a. They just broke his car (or) They have just broke his car.
    b. I haven't finished my homework yet (or) I didn't finish my homework yet.
    c. The Government has already made a lot of new rules (or) The Government already made a lot of new rules.
    d. He has never eaten that fruit (or) He never ate that fruit.

    I think in BrE, past tense is not used and it is only used in AmE , and present perfect tense Is used in BrE .
    Last edited by Axa1970; 28-May-2017 at 16:39.

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    Re: Topic about JUST,YET,ALREADY,NEVER

    Quote Originally Posted by Axa1970 View Post
    So Are they the following sentences normal in BrE?

    a. They just broke his car. I don't know what you mean by "broke his car".
    (or)
    They have just broke his car. 1) It would be "have just broken" and 2) I don't know what it would mean.

    b. I haven't finished my homework yet.
    (or)
    I didn't finish my homework yet. Not natural in BrE.

    c. The Government has already made a lot of new rules.
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    The Government already made a new rules. You have used a singular article with a plural noun.

    d. He has never eaten that fruit.
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    He never ate that fruit. OK in the right context.

    I think that in BrE the simple past tense is not used and it is only used in AmE, and that the present perfect tense is used in BrE.
    See above.

    Your final sentence is nonsense. Of course BrE uses the simple past! There are certain contexts in which BrE uses one tense and AmE uses another but both variants use all tenses.
    Here's a couple of examples of situations in which we choose different tenses:

    This is the first time I have eaten an avocado. (BrE)
    This is the first time I ate an avocado. (AmE)

    It was the first time I had ever eaten that dish. (BrE)
    It was the first time I ever ate that dish. (AmE)
    Last edited by emsr2d2; 28-May-2017 at 16:58. Reason: Fixed typo. Thanks GS
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    Re: Topic about JUST,YET,ALREADY,NEVER

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    Here's a couple of examples of situations in which we choose different tenses:

    This is the first time I have eaten an avocado. (BrE)
    This is the first time I ate an avocado. (AmE)

    It was the first time I had ever eaten that dish. (BrE)
    It was the first time I ever ate that dish. (AmE)
    I find the simple past unnatural in both those sentences, though perhaps some other American English speakers would use it.
    Last edited by emsr2d2; 28-May-2017 at 16:59. Reason: Fixed typo in quote
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    Re: Topic about JUST,YET,ALREADY,NEVER

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    See above.

    Your final sentence is nonsense. Of course BrE uses the simple past! There are certain contexts in which BrE uses one tense and AmE uses another but both variants use all tenses.
    Here's a couple of examples of situations in which we choose different tenses:

    This is the first time I have eaten an avocado. (BrE)
    This is the first time I ate an avocado. (AmE)

    It was the first time I had ever eaten that dish. (BrE)
    It was the first time I ever ate that dish. (AmE)

    I mean, the sentence A and B mean that they have broken/broke his car RECENTLY, it's like 1 minute ago,5hours ago etc.

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    Re: Topic about JUST,YET,ALREADY,NEVER

    You can't break a car. Do you mean "They just wrecked his car"? That means that they wrecked his car very recently. "They have just wrecked his car" can mean the same thing. The context would determine which tense to use.
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    Re: Topic about JUST,YET,ALREADY,NEVER

    Quote Originally Posted by Axa1970 View Post
    I mean, the sentence A and B mean that they have broken/broke his car RECENTLY, it's like 1 minute ago,5hours ago etc.
    Quote Originally Posted by GoesStation View Post
    You can't break a car. Do you mean "They just wrecked his car"? That means that they wrecked his car very recently. "They have just wrecked his car" can mean the same thing. The context would determine which tense to use.
    Yes, That's what I meant, so are those sentences correct in standard BrE, if I use past tense and Present perfect?

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    Re: Topic about JUST,YET,ALREADY,NEVER

    Quote Originally Posted by Axa1970 View Post
    I mean, the sentence A and B mean that they have broken/broke his car RECENTLY, it's like 1 minute ago,5hours ago etc.
    I didn't query the timeline. I clearly queried the meaning of "broke his car". If you meant "wrecked his car" ("crashed his car" in BrE), then that's fine. The reader/listener would, of course, wonder who "they" are why they were driving his car in the first place.
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    Re: Topic about JUST,YET,ALREADY,NEVER

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    I didn't query the timeline. I clearly queried the meaning of "broke his car". If you meant "wrecked his car" ("crashed his car" in BrE), then that's fine. The reader/listener would, of course, wonder who "they" are why they were driving his car in the first place.
    So, are the sentences correct and accepted in BrE?

    a. The police officer has just caught a burglar (or) The police officer recently has caught a burglar. (They mean that the police officer has caught a burglar not a long time ago).

    b. My mother just cooked fish and chips (or) My mother recently cooked fish and chips (they mean that my mother cooked it not a long time ago).

    c. Her husband had just bought her a new flat (or) Her husband recently had bought her a new flat. (They mean that her husband had bought it for her not a long time ago).

    d. He never tried to leave his room.

    e. He has never tried to leave his room.

    f. He had never tried to leave his room.

    G. He already called the police (or) he has already called the police (or) he had already called the police.

    h. He didn't repair his father's car yet. (Or) he hasn't repaired his father's car yet (or) he hadn't repaired his car yet.
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    Re: Topic about JUST,YET,ALREADY,NEVER

    Quote Originally Posted by GoesStation View Post
    I find the simple past unnatural in both those sentences, though perhaps some other American English speakers would use it.
    As do I.
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    Re: Topic about JUST,YET,ALREADY,NEVER

    Quote Originally Posted by GoesStation View Post
    I find the simple past unnatural in both those sentences, though perhaps some other American English speakers would use it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Skrej View Post
    As do I.

    Hmm, maybe I'm mixing it up with some other BrE vs AmE difference. I was sure I'd seen AmE speakers on here say that things like "This is the best meal I ever ate" are OK in AmE.
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