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    #1

    announce king v. proclaim king

    Are these two sentences identical in meaning?

    1. He was proclaimed king.
    2. He was announced king.

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/proclaim

    Another example: "At his birth he was announced KING OF ROME".
    https://books.google.com.tr/books?id...20ROME&f=false

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    Re: announce king v. proclaim king

    We normally use only 'proclaim' in such situations.

    edit: My apologies. I wrote 'pronounce ' instead of the intended 'proclaim' when I first submitted this.
    Last edited by Rover_KE; 31-May-2017 at 17:29. Reason: Error corrected

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    Re: announce king v. proclaim king

    Quote Originally Posted by Piscean View Post
    We normally use only 'pronounce' in such situations.
    Does normally imply that announce and proclaim is odd or incorrect? Why do dictionaries give such examples, "proclaimed king" and some books have "announced king"?

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    Re: announce king v. proclaim king

    Sorry. There was an error in my post. I have now corrected it.

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    Re: announce king v. proclaim king

    Quote Originally Posted by Piscean View Post
    Sorry. There was an error in my post. I have now corrected it.
    It's strange to me that you natives sometimes might confuse words. What do you think about the book example of "announced king of Rome" given in the link? Is it odd or incorrect as now "normally" would imply to just "announce"?

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    Re: announce king v. proclaim king

    The book you quote is written in what looks like a poor attempt to reproduce the language of the King James Bible. Don't use it as an example of modern English.
    I am not a teacher.

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    Re: announce king v. proclaim king

    Quote Originally Posted by GoesStation View Post
    The book you quote is written in what looks like a poor attempt to reproduce the language of the King James Bible. Don't use it as an example of modern English.
    Hence now I understand that announce is incorrect. Would you offer an identical verb to proclaim in he was proclaimed king or a phrase identical to proclaim king?

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    Re: announce king v. proclaim king

    There's no identical verb or phrase.. The verb 'proclaimed' is perfect for this context.

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    Re: announce king v. proclaim king

    Quote Originally Posted by hhtt21 View Post
    It's strange to me that you natives sometimes might confuse words. .
    Some of us refuse worms quiet orphan. We call it 'senior momentums'.

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    Re: announce king v. proclaim king

    Quote Originally Posted by Piscean View Post
    Some of us refuse worms quiet orphan. We call it 'senior momentums'.
    Would somebody explain above? What worms, what quiet orphan, what senior momentus? Senior Momentus is a very rare phrase. Even onelook do not find word momentus.
    Thank you.

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