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    Already+present tense

    So,I'd just like to know, do they have the same meaning?, if I make those sentences like those.

    For examples: "Already" in present tense.

    A. You have already got five pence. (Or) You already have five pence.
    B. I have already got to tell him about his father's death. (Or) I already have to tell him about his father's death.
    C. He has already got a new computer. (Or) He already has a new computer.
    D. She has already got to go to her friend's house. (Or) She already has to go to her friend's house.

    Do they have same meaning? Would you mind correcting them, if they're wrong, thanks in advance.
    Last edited by emsr2d2; 06-Jun-2017 at 13:56. Reason: Removed unnecessary line breaks.

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    Re: Already+present tense

    When it describes possession, to have got means the same thing as to have. The verb in sentence pairs B and D describes obligation, so only to have works in those sentences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoesStation View Post
    The verb in sentence pairs B and D describes obligation, so only to have works in those sentences.
    I'm not sure I agree with that.

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    #4

    Re: Already+present tense

    to have got = to have
    have got to = must

    "I have got to tell him about his father's death". I can't come up with a natural position for "already" in that sentence.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: Already+present tense

    I've already got to tell him about his father's death. I don't want to be the one to tell him that his house was burnt down too.

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    #6

    Re: Already+present tense

    Quote Originally Posted by teechar View Post
    I've already got to tell him about his father's death. I don't want to be the one to tell him that his house was burnt down too.
    The first sentence wouldn't work in American English. We'd say ​I already have to tell him about his father's death. If you leave out the adverb, though, it works fine: I've got to tell him about his father's death.
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    #7

    Re: Already+present tense

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    to have got = to have
    have got to = must

    "I have got to tell him about his father's death". I can't come up with a natural position for "already" in that sentence.
    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    to have got = to have
    have got to = must


    "I have got to tell him about his father's death". I can't come up with a natural position for "already" in that sentence.

    so, are those sentences correct and accepted in standard BrE?




    A. You already have five pence.

    B. I already have to tell him about his father's death. I don't want to be the one to tell him that his house was burnt down too.

    C. He already has a new computer.

    D. She already has to go to her friend's house.

    E. The National Health Service already has one million employees.

    F. Nicola Sturgeon already has to set out plans for Scottish independence from the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

    G. We already have to pay our taxes.

    H. They already have to vote for their new prime minister.

    I. That organisation already has to make new rules.

    J. Travellers already have to check their health before travelling to the other countries.

    Would you mind correcting or fixing them, if they're not grammatically correct, the word orders are wrong, etc. thanks in advance.
    Last edited by Axa1970; 07-Jun-2017 at 15:54.

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    Re: Already+present tense

    Quote Originally Posted by Axa1970 View Post
    So(no comma) are these sentences correct and accepted in standard BrE?

    A. You already have five pence.
    B. I already have to tell him about his father's death, I don't want to be the one to tell him that his house was burnt down too.
    C. He already has a new computer.
    D. She already has to go to her friend's house.
    E. National Health Service already has one million employees.
    F. Nicola Sturgeon already has to set out plans for Scottish independent.
    G. We already have to pay our taxes.
    H. They already have to vote for their new prime minister.
    I. That organisation already has to make new laws.
    J. Travellers already have to check their health before travelling to the other countries.
    You didn't ask about American English, but I'll tell you anyway that they're fine. I'm confident they work equally well in BrE.

    Note my corrections above. In written English, without any further context, "those" refers to previously-mentioned items. I changed it to "these" to refer to items that follow it.
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    #9

    Re: Already+present tense

    Quote Originally Posted by Axa1970 View Post
    National Health Service
    The National Health Service

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    #10

    Re: Already+present tense

    I missed a couple of errors. In addition to the NHS reference Piscean pointed out:

    B contains a comma splice.
    F has an adjective where it needs a noun.
    J spells "travelers" and "traveling" in BrE fashion (which was, after all, the target dialect and is not an error except in AmE).
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