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    not hearing the aggression I'd like

    Hello, everyone.

    This dialogue is taken from an American military drama set in Iraq.
    A group of marines was told to proceed through the city streets in spite of the fact that there were obvious signs of an ambush.

    Group Leader: I think I just agreed to be ambushed.
    Marine #1: Why don't we just shoot ourselves and save them the trouble?
    Marine #2: Seriously, we are going to get jacked.
    Group Leader: Frankly, gentlemen, I'm not hearing the aggression I'd like. Keep scanning.

    What does the leader mean? That he wants to get a more angry reaction from his teammates?

    Thank you in advance.
    Last edited by Dark_Fury; 21-Jun-2017 at 10:10. Reason: sings -> signs; a little addition to the last line

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    Re: not hearing the aggression I'd like

    Yes.

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    Re: not hearing the aggression I'd like

    It still sounds a little bit unclear to me. One question - is "I'm not hearing the aggression I'd like." equal to "I'm not hearing the aggression I'd like to hear."?

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    Re: not hearing the aggression I'd like

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark_Fury View Post
    One question - is "I'm not hearing the aggression I'd like[no full stop here]" equal to "I'm not hearing the aggression I'd like to hear[no full stop here]"?
    Yes.

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    Re: not hearing the aggression I'd like

    Yes.

    [Cross-posted with Rover.]
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: not hearing the aggression I'd like

    I figured out what troubled me the most. The leader says he would like to hear stronger verbal aggression from his teammates at the prospect of their group being ambushed -- he thinks they accepted it too well. But in another context, could the phrase "I'm not hearing the aggression I'd like" imply hostility or physical aggression? For example, a team of American football players is about to take the field, their coach: "I'm not hearing the aggression I'd like! I want to see fierce roaring beasts, not members of a chess club!" Here by "I'm not hearing the aggression I'd like" the coach means to say he wants the players to show him how aggressive they are (that is, how angry and ready to fight they are). What do you think?
    Last edited by Dark_Fury; 21-Jun-2017 at 08:41. Reason: underlining

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    Re: not hearing the aggression I'd like

    I think you already nailed this in post #1 and should move on.

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    Re: not hearing the aggression I'd like

    Rover, almost there!

    I'm going to assume there's nothing wrong with my made-up example in my previous post -- a coach could really say something like that. But there's a difference in the meaning, isn't there? The leader in the story says his squadmates should've replied to the news with much more hostility. The coach in my example, on the other hand, says that his players should be more lively, angry, and ready to tear some heads off in the upcoming match. The same phrase, but different kinds of aggression, am I correct?
    Last edited by Dark_Fury; 21-Jun-2017 at 23:11. Reason: change the question

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    Re: not hearing the aggression I'd like

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark_Fury View Post
    I figured out what troubled me the most. The leader says he would like to hear stronger verbal aggression from his teammates at the prospect of their group being ambushed -- he thinks they accepted it too well. But in another context, could the phrase "I'm not hearing the aggression I'd like" imply hostility or physical aggression? For example, a team of American football players is about to take the field, their coach: "I'm not hearing the aggression I'd like! I want to see fierce roaring beasts, not members of a chess club!" Here by "I'm not hearing the aggression I'd like" the coach means to say he wants the players to show him how aggressive they are (that is, how angry and ready to fight they are). What do you think?
    Yes, but in this case the first comment is defeatist and the second not much better. I'd rather have soldiers around me who wanted to fight.

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    Re: not hearing the aggression I'd like

    Tdol, now I got confused. Can you state clearly what the group leader wants from his subordinates? In you own words, please.

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