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    Crawl into a rat hole

    I am wondering if my sentences are grammatically correct. I am not sure if the phrase "crawl into a rat hole" makes sense in this sentence.

    "How can you spread such lies about me?" Anna told her girlfriend. "If I were you, I'd have crawled into a rat hole of shame."
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    Re: Crawl into a rat hole

    They're grammatically correct. "A rat hole of shame" isn't a recognised phrase (in BrE, at least) but it's fairly clear what you mean. I might have used "I'd have crawled under a rock with shame".

    Also, the tenses don't really match (just noticed this). If you're going to end as you have, I'd start with "How could you ...?"
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: Crawl into a rat hole

    I'd say 'asked' rather than 'told'.

    Delete the superfluous 'a'.

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    Re: Crawl into a rat hole

    Quote Originally Posted by Rover_KE View Post
    I'd say 'asked' rather than 'told'.

    Delete the superfluous 'a'.
    Now that I've re-read it, so would I. I misplaced the full stop when I read it the first time and thought that "Anna told her girlfriend" was connected directly to "If I were you ...".
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    Re: Crawl into a rat hole

    I think I'd remove the 'of shame'.

    Crawling into a rat hole (at least in AmE) already has connotations of shame or cowardice, so it seems superfluous to add 'of shame'. I've never heard the expression used with anything tacked on after 'rathole'.

    The expression is also usually used more as an imperative or snarky suggestion, but it works okay in your example (minus 'shame').

    "Why don't you just crawl back into your rat hole?"
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    Re: Crawl into a rat hole

    That's similar to the BrE "Why don't you just crawl back under whatever rock you crawled out from under?"
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    Re: Crawl into a rat hole

    Yes, AmE uses that version as well. Also you'll hear 'snake hole' instead of 'rat-hole', or even 'cesspool'.

    I guess it just depends on your preferred vermin.
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    Re: Crawl into a rat hole

    Quote Originally Posted by Skrej View Post
    Yes, AmE uses that version as well. Also you'll hear 'snake hole' instead of 'rat-hole', or even 'cesspool'.

    I guess it just depends on your preferred vermin.
    Vermin?! In my case, those are (or at least have been) pets.
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    Re: Crawl into a rat hole

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    "Why don't you just crawl back under whatever rock you crawled out from under?"
    Note this great expression in which three prepositions end a sentence - not just one!
    Last edited by Rover_KE; 09-Jul-2017 at 13:25.

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