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    But there are colleagues of mine who do feel strongly about the war

    Which of these punctuation are OK?

    But there are colleagues of mine who do feel strongly about the war, who are willing to help.

    But there are colleagues of mine who do feel strongly about the war, and who are willing to help.

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    Re: But there are colleagues of mine who do feel strongly about the war

    Although the supposed "rule" that you can't start a sentence with "But" is nonsense, it does not work with your sentence. Either make the sentence longer by telling us what comes before it and including "but" inside the sentence or remove "But" and stick with the rest.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: But there are colleagues of mine who do feel strongly about the war

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    Although the supposed "rule" that you can't start a sentence with "But" is nonsense, it does not work with your sentence. Either make the sentence longer by telling us what comes before it and including "but" inside the sentence or remove "But" and stick with the rest.
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    Can we connect independent clause with "comma" like the first example?

    There are colleagues of mine who do feel strongly about the war, who are willing to help.
    There are colleagues of mine who do feel strongly about the war, and who are willing to help.

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    Re: But there are colleagues of mine who do feel strongly about the war

    I don't like the use of the word "But" at the beginning of a sentence either. I like RobertJ's sentence, but it does not address the previous context which is not shown but I can imagine it.

    When I am faced with a "but" issue like this, I use "however" instead.

    "However, there are colleagues of mine who do feel strongly about the war and are willing to help."

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    Re: But there are colleagues of mine who do feel strongly about the war

    Thank you RobertJ and Lynxear. Thanks for your suggestions.

    Now I have problem with punctuation. I just want to know if following sentence is correct or not?

    There are colleagues of mine who do feel strongly about the war, who are willing to help.

    And is my own sentence correct when I added "and" to the sentence above?

    There are colleagues of mine who do feel strongly about the war, and who are willing to help.

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    Re: But there are colleagues of mine who do feel strongly about the war

    I would choose the second sentence but without the comma and the second "who"

    There are colleagues of mine who do feel strongly about the war and are willing to help.
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    Re: But there are colleagues of mine who do feel strongly about the war

    I would either add a comma after 'mine', making who do feel strongly about the war non-defining, or delete the comma after 'war', making both relative clauses defining.
    There are colleagues of mine, who do feel strongly about the war who are willing to help.
    I would not have a comma in that sentence.
    There are colleagues of mine who do feel strongly about the war who are willing to help.


    Thanks. Now after all, it makes sense to me.

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