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    Re2:past perfect

    Dear sir,
    befor I begin I've several questions:
    1-when taking a decision at the moment of speaking do we use "shall"or"will"
    with "I"&"we"?& why?
    2-I`ve read"This is a four-star hotel".My question:why didn`t the speaker say"A fourstars hotel"?would you please explain this construction?
    3-I`ve read"This is a four-star hotel"my question is:why didn't the speaker say"a fourstars hotel"?would you please explain this structure?
    Best wishes...

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    Re: Re2:past perfect

    1. Some British speakers say "shall", but this is now considered a bit old-fashioned; many speakers now prefer "will". In American English, "shall" is quite rare.

    2 (and 3). "Four stars" is a so-called noun phrase; it's made up of a headword (the noun itself, "stars") and a modifier (here, the word "four"). In the phrase "four-star hotel", it is no longer a noun phrase but an adjective.

    In English, when a noun phrase is converted to an adjective, we put hyphens between the elements and we make the noun singular (that is, we drop the plural marker). Some more examples:

    The girl is four years old. She is a four-year-old girl.
    The man is six feet [about 180cm] tall. He is a six-foot man.
    This process uses four colours. It is a four-colour process.

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    Re: Re2:past perfect

    Quote Originally Posted by bayan said
    2-I`ve read"This is a four-star hotel".My question:why didn`t the speaker say"A fourstars hotel"?would you please explain this construction?
    Perhaps,you are asking for the ratings of that hotel!

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    Re: Re2:past perfect

    Quote Originally Posted by bayan said
    Dear sir,
    befor I begin I've several questions:
    1-when taking a decision at the moment of speaking do we use "shall"or"will"
    with "I"&"we"?& why?
    2-I`ve read"This is a four-star hotel".My question:why didn`t the speaker say"A fourstars hotel"?would you please explain this construction?
    3-I`ve read"This is a four-star hotel"my question is:why didn't the speaker say"a fourstars hotel"?would you please explain this structure?
    Best wishes...
    I agree totally with rewboss on both questions. Just to add that, as a BE speaker, I use shall in offers and suggestions for the future:-

    Shall I open the window?
    Shall we go to the cinema tonight?

    Is this also common in AE?

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    Re: Re2:past perfect

    Only amongst Americans who try to pretend they're British by using words like "shall" and "amongst."

    -Mike

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    Itīs quite amusing to learn and confirm English like this!

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    Re: Re2:past perfect

    Quote Originally Posted by DavyBCN
    I agree totally with rewboss on both questions. Just to add that, as a BE speaker, I use shall in offers and suggestions for the future:-

    Shall I open the window?
    Shall we go to the cinema tonight?
    As another BrE speaker, I do the same. I could also use it in the second person:

    'I won't do it!'
    'Oh yes, you shall!' (Where the function is to express my anger and determination to make the other comply.)

    However, I don't use the form often.

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