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    Had he carried it out

    When I was reading a biography text, I encountered a confusing structure in a red color.

    I guess it is "If clause type 3" the structure I know in "If clause type 3" is If+s+v3 ,S + modal verb+ have+ v3. For example,

    If I had gone to Italy, I would have visited Monte Grappa.

    When I first saw "had he carried it out,"I thought it is a question because "had" came before "he"

    Inflated by his wondrous success in Spain, Musa Ibn Nusair planned a magnificent campaign,which,had he carried it out , would have given quite a diffrent phase to subsequent European histoy.


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    Re: Had he carried it out

    Try inserting 'if' in front of 'had', and see if that helps clarify things. It's essentially a third conditional, but missing that introductory 'if', along with a slight rearrangement of the usual word order.
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    Re: Had he carried it out

    Had he carried it out is a slightly fancier way to say if he had carried it out.

    Remember to put a space after every comma. Never put a space before a comma.
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    Re: Had he carried it out

    It's not a question; it's an inversion.

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    Re: Had he carried it out

    Quote Originally Posted by mrmvp View Post
    When I was reading a biography text ...
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    Re: Had he carried it out

    Quote Originally Posted by GoesStation View Post
    Had he carried it out is a slightly fancier way to say if he had carried it out.

    Remember to put a space after every comma. Never put a space before a comma.


    can I apply the same rule of "If clause type 3" in if clause type 1 and 2 ?

    I mean, can I omit "if" in if clause type 1 and 2? as in if clause type 3 had he carried it out , would have given quite a diffrent phase to subsequent European histoy.


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    Re: Had he carried it out

    Your sample sentence is not possible. I don't know what a type 1 or 2 sentence is so I can't comment on that.
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    Re: Had he carried it out

    Quote Originally Posted by GoesStation View Post
    Your sample sentence is not possible. I don't know what a type 1 or 2 sentence is so I can't comment on that.
    I think both if clause and if conditional are the same.

    can I omit the "if " in the examples below

    An example of "If clause type 1"



    If I find her address, I will send her an invitation.


    An example of if clause type 2

    If had time, I would take nap

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    Re: Had he carried it out

    Had I time, I would take a nap.
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    Re: Had he carried it out

    Quote Originally Posted by mrmvp View Post
    An example of if clause type 2

    If had time, I would take nap
    That doesn't work.

    If you want to invert with all three conditionals, try the following:

    Should I see her, I will give her you message. (Type 1)
    Were I to win the lottery, I wouldn't change the way I live. (Type 2)
    Had I seen him, I would have told him what I thought. (Type 3)

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