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    The use of 'at' for numbers representing passengers

    Hi there,

    Is the following sentence correct when describing a table? (This is not a part of any assignment, and I'm working out different bits of language I can use to describe such charts.)

    "As is shown, Tokyo and Paris (having a route of 155 Km and 199 Km respectively) carried the largest numbers of passengers at 1927 and 1191 million."

    I'd be most thankful if you could just kindly let me know how any other part doesn't sound natural to you.

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    Re: The use of 'at' for numbers representing passengers

    I am not a teacher...

    ..but I think it sounds right, in regards to the use of 'at'.
    I might adjust this a tiny bit:

    "As is shown, Tokyo and Paris (having a routes of 155 Km and 199 Km respectively) carried the largest numbers of passengers at 1927 and 1191 million."

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    Re: The use of 'at' for numbers representing passengers

    In American English I'd write at 1.927 and 1.191 billion, respectively.
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    Re: The use of 'at' for numbers representing passengers

    I wasn't aware that AmE used the full stop (period) there. I associate it with most continental European countries. In BrE, it would "1,927 and 1,191 billion". (For anyone looking at this on a small screen, those are commas.)
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: The use of 'at' for numbers representing passengers

    That's what I thought at first, ems, but GS correctly changed 1,927 million to 1.927 billion.

    Mehrgan, I'd expect to see 1,927 and 1,191 million.

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    Re: The use of 'at' for numbers representing passengers

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    I wasn't aware that AmE used the full stop (period) there. I associate it with most continental European countries. In BrE, it would "1,927 and 1,191 billion". (For anyone looking at this on a small screen, those are commas.)
    It's a decimal point. In American English, we simply don't put thousands before millions, since a thousand million is a billion.

    Aware of the potential for confusion, I have long been an advocate of rounding off to two decimal places before "-illion" words; e.g., 1.93 billion.
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    Re: The use of 'at' for numbers representing passengers

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbha View Post
    In American English, we simply don't put thousands before millions, since a thousand million is a billion.
    The billion is the same in normal British English- the milliard has gone from usage.

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    Re: The use of 'at' for numbers representing passengers

    That has clearly passed me by. As far as I'm concerned, a billion is a million million and always has been. I was already aware that it's a thousand million in the USA.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: The use of 'at' for numbers representing passengers

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    a million million
    That's a trillion.

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    Re: The use of 'at' for numbers representing passengers

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    That has clearly passed me by. As far as I'm concerned, a billion is a million million and always has been. I was already aware that it's a thousand million in the USA.
    British texts often use thousand million just to avoid confusion. The "long billion" of a thousand million was never widely used in America so a billion is unambiguous over here.
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