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    form and meaning of 'afford somebody to be'

    Hello.

    I would like to ask you a question that has been occupying my head for a while now.

    I know for sure that there is a structure, for instance, "to be able to afford to do something" or "to be able to afford something".

    I cannot afford to buy this expensive red car. = I don't have anough money to buy it.

    The structure that I want to ask you about is as follows (underlined):

    I’ve been thinking that I can’t afford for my wife to be a Stay-At-Home Mom.

    Does it mean that "I am not able to raise enough money to pay my wife for being a Stay-At-Home wife and many services she does at home" or "I cannot afford a situation in which my wife would spend all her life at home devoting it to a family"?

    I think "I can’t afford for my wife to be a Stay-At-Home Mom" is the same as "I can’t afford my wife to be a Stay-At-Home Mom".

    I don't think that removing "for" changes the meaning.

    What do you think?

    Thank you.

    Source: http://ijr.com/2015/04/287991-father...stay-home-mom/

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    Re: form and meaning of 'afford somebody to be'

    It means my income is not enough and I need my wife to work.

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    Re: form and meaning of 'afford somebody to be'

    I don't think that the removal or addition of "for" changes the meaning. But I do think that "for" is AmE only, and a little substandard, slightly less educated-sounding.

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    Re: form and meaning of 'afford somebody to be'

    It's common enough so I don't think people think of it as substandard, at least in the US.

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    Re: form and meaning of 'afford somebody to be'

    I find the capitalisation of "Stay-At-Home" very odd.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: form and meaning of 'afford somebody to be'

    afford someone to be vs afford for someone to be vs afford someone being

    Hello everybody!

    And this is exactly why I can’t afford my wife being a Stay-At-Home Mom.

    In my opinion, I can’t afford my wife being a stay-at-home mom = I can’t afford my wife to be a stay-at-home mom = I can’t afford for my wife to be a stay-at-home mom.

    Do you think I am wrong?

    Thank you.

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    Re: form and meaning of 'afford somebody to be'

    Quote Originally Posted by JACEK1 View Post
    And this is exactly why I canít afford for my wife to be a stay-at-home mom.
    That is the one I would use. I don't much like the other two.
    By the way, AmE uses "mom"; other varieties use "mum."

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    Re: form and meaning of 'afford somebody to be'

    Quote Originally Posted by teechar View Post
    By the way, AmE uses "mom"; other varieties use "mum."
    Certain dialects in BrE don't use "mum". My friends from certain parts of the Midlands use "mom" and my Irish friend uses "mam".
    Last edited by emsr2d2; 25-Aug-2017 at 22:24.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: form and meaning of 'afford somebody to be'

    And you'll also hear "ma".

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