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    overall v. all over

    Sometimes overall and all over are the same. But I try to understand this. Would you help me. For example the first meaning in Merriam. But it's not much explanatory so it does not make much sense to me.

    "The pattern is used all over/overall."

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/overall

    And which one it is as meaning "all over" in oxford?

    https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/us/overall

    Thank you.

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    Re: overall v. all over

    Quote Originally Posted by hhtt21 View Post
    Sometimes overall and all over are the same.
    Can you give us an example?

    Quote Originally Posted by hhtt21 View Post
    But I try to understand this.
    What does that mean?

    Quote Originally Posted by hhtt21 View Post
    Would you help me?
    Quote Originally Posted by hhtt21 View Post
    For example, consider the first meaning [of what?] in Merriam Webster. But it's not much help, explanatory so and it does not make much sense to me.

    "The pattern is used all over/overall."

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/overall
    I can't find that sentence in the link you've provided.

    Quote Originally Posted by hhtt21 View Post
    And which one it is as meaning "all over" in oxford?

    https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/us/overall

    Thank you.
    Again, I don't understand.

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    Re: overall v. all over

    Quote Originally Posted by teechar View Post
    Can you give us an example?
    First thank you for your corrections. This is the example "The pattern is used overall."

    Quote Originally Posted by teechar View Post
    What does that mean?
    By saying "Sometimes overall and all over are the same. But I try to understand this" I meant to say "But I try to understand how they are the same."

    Quote Originally Posted by teechar View Post
    I can't find that sentence in the link you've provided.
    Links are working correctly for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by teechar View Post
    Again, I don't understand.
    It is the first meaning of overall. Which meaning of overall in oxford does mean as all over?

    Thank you.

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    Re: overall v. all over

    Since you took the example from Merriam Webster look no further than Merriam-Webster definition 1 to find out about the definition.

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    Re: overall v. all over

    There is indeed a difference.

    "Overall" tends to mean " on the whole" or "generally". For example: Overall I thought they gave a good performance.

    "All over" on the other hand, tends to mean "everywhere". For instance: There was evidence of torture all over his body.

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    Re: overall v. all over

    Write I'm trying to understand this.
    I am not a teacher.

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    Re: overall v. all over

    Quote Originally Posted by probus View Post
    There is indeed a difference.

    "Overall" tends to mean " on the whole" or "generally". For example: Overall I thought they gave a good performance.

    "All over" on the other hand, tends to mean "everywhere". For instance: There was evidence of torture all over his body.
    You have demonstrated the difference, would you now demonstrate the intersection of them?

    Thank you.

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    Re: overall v. all over

    Quote Originally Posted by andrewg927 View Post
    Since you took the example from Merriam Webster look no further than Merriam-Webster definition 1 to find out about the definition.
    But it is not much help for me to understand that definition. I am still trying to understand the closeness and overlaping between overall and all over and their definition in for this sense.

    Thank you.

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    Re: overall v. all over

    What is it that you don't understand about their definitions?

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    Re: overall v. all over

    Quote Originally Posted by andrewg927 View Post
    What is it that you don't understand about their definitions?
    Is overall meaning all over an adverb in Merriam? Does it match with "In all parts; taken as a whole." in oxford?

    https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/us/overall

    This is what is my hesitation.

    Thank you.

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