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    avoid v. keep away from

    I am trying to form a sentence would you help me form it?


    "Most real hackers does not touch Windows with their hands, not seeing it a real operating system, even keeping away from Linux as well, they work with Unix."

    Thank you.

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    Re: avoid v. keep away from

    Quote Originally Posted by hhtt21 View Post
    I am trying to form a sentence. Would you help me form it?

    "Most real hackers does not touch Windows with their hands, not seeing it a real operating system, even keeping away from Linux as well, they work with Unix."
    Most real hackers do not touch Windows, which they don't regard as a real operating system. They even stay away from Linux. Their favorite OS is Unix.

    I'm not commenting on the veracity of the sentiment.
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    Re: avoid v. keep away from

    No one can touch Windows with their hands. It's an operating system so there is nothing physical to touch.

    There is a common phrase in BrE - "wouldn't touch it with a barge pole", meaning someone stays well away from something, refusing to get anywhere near it. That would fit in your context.

    "Most real hackers wouldn't touch Windows with a barge pole ..."

    There's also "Most real hackers avoid Windows like the plague ..."
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: avoid v. keep away from

    In American English, we don't touch things with a ten-foot​ pole. I find the unqualified "they don't touch Windows" fine, though.
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    Re: avoid v. keep away from

    Quote Originally Posted by GoesStation View Post
    In American English, we don't touch things with a ten-foot​ pole. I find the unqualified "they don't touch Windows" fine, though.
    Thank you for the idiom "not touch something with a ten-foot pole" in American English. But would you explain why you call "they don't touch" as unqualified?

    Thank you.

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    Re: avoid v. keep away from

    Quote Originally Posted by GoesStation View Post
    In American English, we don't touch things with a ten-foot​ pole. I find the unqualified "they don't touch Windows" fine, though.
    Quote Originally Posted by hhtt21 View Post
    Thank you for the idiom "not touch something with a ten-foot pole" in American English. But would you explain why you call "they don't touch" as unqualified?
    I hesitated to post that because I thought it might be confusing. Sorry!

    As you can see from the first quote above, I didn't write that they don't touch is unqualified. Two longer versions of the quoted phrase were proposed earlier in the thread: Most real hackers don't touch Windows with their hands and Most real hackers wouldn't touch Windows with a barge pole. The bolded phrases qualify "Most real hackers don't/wouldn't touch Windows." My suggestion is not to qualify that phrase at all.
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