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    had been!

    i have seen many sentences from books or dictionaries,

    sometime, when they use "past perfect" sentence, they didnt indicate " had been" was happened before soemthings else.


    for ex:explorers going where no man had trod before.


    so, "had trod" before "when"
    (according to grammar rule: when you use past perfect it's taking about something happened before somthing else in the past , right? but the sentence
    above dosn't give any sense of "past of past" this sentence seem like simple past.)

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    Re: had been!

    explorers going where no man had trod (so this is it!) They went to places where until then, nobody had gone before (them,the explorers)

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    Re: had been!

    but, they just plan to go there, but have not gone yet, why use "had been"

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    Re: had been!

    sorry,I had the impression you were talking about a quote from the past,like a sentence from a book of history or the like...If these explorers are just planning to go, but havenīt actually gone, then it should be explorers going where no man has trod before.


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    #5

    Re: had been!

    Hello,
    There is not enough context. It might well have been some where had been after going was perfectly correct.
    Bye

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    Re: had been!

    i found this sentence in an electric dictionary, it's only given that much of clue,
    so, i am confusing it. but it said: "no man had trod"

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    Re: had been!

    Quote Originally Posted by endeavor6636
    i found this sentence in an electric dictionary, it's only given that much of clue,
    so, i am confusing it. but it said: "no man had trod"
    The text must be referring to people in the past who went somewhere where no-one had been before. For example, when a man walked on the moon (which happened for the first time many years ago), he was walking where "no-ne had trod before". So the past perfect tense is correct for a past event which happened before another past event.

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