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    two combinations of the noun "stroke"

    Hello

    Does the sentence "She gave the dog's head a stroke" mean the same as "She gave the dog a stroke on the head"?

    I do not know and so it is better to check with you.

    What is your opinion?

    Thank you.

    By stroke I mean the act of moving one's hand gently over the dog's fluffy head. This time it is a noun.

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    Re: two combinations of the noun "stroke"

    The sentences are equivalent.
    I am not a teacher.

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    Re: two combinations of the noun "stroke"

    I don't think they're natural in any variety of English.

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    Re: two combinations of the noun "stroke"

    She stroked the dog's head works better for me.

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    Re: two combinations of the noun "stroke"

    I am sorry to be replying so late.

    Are there any other ways of expressing the same thought using the word "stroke", be it a noun or a verb?

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    Re: two combinations of the noun "stroke"

    Not exactly, but the meaning could be retained. The meaning of the word "stroke" (gently move one's hand over something) could also remain.

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    Re: two combinations of the noun "stroke"

    So you tend to use "stroke someone or something" instead of "stroke someone on (the head)", for instance, don't you?

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    Re: two combinations of the noun "stroke"

    Quote Originally Posted by JACEK1 View Post
    So you tend to use "stroke someone or something" instead of "stroke someone on (the head)", for instance, don't you?
    Yes.
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    Re: two combinations of the noun "stroke"

    These questions make it even more clear how complex English is.

    There's nothing wrong with "I gave the dog a quick pat on the head" or "He patted me on the shoulder" and yet "stroke" (which should act the same way) sounds wrong.

    I guess it's more a matter of what we tend to do - there are no rules that say it's ungrammatical. We just all agree it's unnatural.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: two combinations of the noun "stroke"

    I think, stroking, being an endearing action, is usually repeated. Thus, it sounds odd to say that someone is given a stroke(on a part of the body).
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