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    kadioguy is offline Key Member
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    It was the first time Id won

    a. It was the first time I’d won since I’d learnt to play chess.
    b. It was the first time I won since I’d learnt to play chess.
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    Are they both acceptable and do they sound natural?
    What is the difference between them?

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    Re: It was the first time Id won

    I see no reason to use the past perfect. Do you?
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    Re: It was the first time Id won

    I thought that there is no need to use the past perfect tense when the past tense is clear enough.
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    Re: It was the first time Id won

    Quote Originally Posted by tedmc View Post
    I see no reason to use the past perfect. Do you?
    I do. The reason is that it is used with 'since'.
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    Re: It was the first time Id won

    It was the first time I won since I learned to play chess.
    Isn't this correct?
    I am not a teacher or a native speaker.

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    Re: It was the first time Id won

    Did you notice the correct version shown in post #3?
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    Re: It was the first time Id won

    Quote Originally Posted by tedmc View Post
    It was the first time I won since I learned to play chess.
    Isn't this correct?
    It's not natural.
    I am not a teacher.

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