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    go and do something

    On http://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/go, it says:

    go
    verb
    go and do something (also go do something American English) [not in past tenses] to move to a particular place in order to do something

    Go wash your hands.
    I went and spoke to the manager.

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    Why does it say 'not in past tenses' and then in the example it writes 'I went and spoke to the manager.'?

    Is there a contradiction between them?

    I'm not a teacher. Please feel free to correct me. :)

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    Re: go and do something

    It says the phrase is not used in the past tense and then it gives an example of its use in the past tense. That is clearly a contradiction.

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    Re: go and do something

    It's the "go [verb]" variant that can't be in the past tense.

    We can say: I went and spoke to the manager.

    But even Americans can't say: *I went spoke to the manager.

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    Re: go and do something

    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus View Post
    It's the "go [verb]" variant that can't be in the past tense.

    We can say: I went and spoke to the manager.

    But even Americans can't say: *I went spoke to the manager.
    I am sorry, but I cannot understand what you mean. Could you explain it in a easier way or in more detail?

    Does you mean 'go do something' cannot be in past tenses, but 'go and do something' can be so?
    Last edited by kadioguy; 03-Oct-2017 at 06:49.
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    Re: go and do something

    Using the example given, you could say:

    I went and washed my hands.

    But not:

    I went washed my hands.

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    Re: go and do something

    I am sorry, but I cannot understand what you mean. Could you explain it in a easier way or in more detail?
    In both British and American English, we can use the "go and [verb]" construction:

    "Let's go and see John."
    "We need to go and get some gas."
    "You should go and meet them now."

    In informal American English, we can omit the conjunction "and" in such sentences:

    "Let's go see John."
    "We need to go get some gas."
    "You should go meet them now."

    In both British and American English, the version with the conjunction can be in the past tense:

    "We went and saw John."
    "We went and got some gas."
    "You went and met them."

    But the version without the conjunction can never grammatically be in the past tense, even in American English. In the following non-sentences, I am using a bold black asterisk and red lettering to represent that the non-sentences aren't sentences. They're ungrammatical. If I knew how strikes are drawn through sentences on this forum, I would do that, too, just to make sure you understood that these are examples of things you should never, ever say:

    *"We went saw John."
    *"We went got some gas."
    *"You went met them."

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    Re: go and do something

    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus View Post
    If I knew how strikes are drawn through sentences on this forum, I would do that, too, just to make sure you understood that these are examples of things you should never, ever say:

    *"We went saw John."
    *"We went got some gas."
    *"You went met them."
    You can do it by following just two steps :
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    "We went saw John."
    *"We went got some gas."
    *"You went met them."
    I'm not a teacher. Please feel free to correct me. :)

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    Re: go and do something

    To find the strike-through feature you have to Go Advanced.

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    Re: go and do something

    You can do it manually as well. You have to type [STRIKE] before the word(s) you want to strike through. After them, you type the same thing but you put a forward slash before the word STRIKE.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: go and do something

    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus View Post
    In informal American English, we can omit the conjunction "and" in such sentences:

    "Let's go see John."
    "We need to go get some gas."
    "You should go meet them now."
    I wouldn't qualify that usage as "informal".
    I am not a teacher.

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