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    Consistency in Present Perfect Tense

    When we start telling a recent event using present perfect should we use the same tense for all related subsequent events?
    For example as below:

    "I have talked to him. He has said he would inform us. He has apologised for the inconvenience."
    or
    "I have talked to him. He said he would inform us. He apologised for the inconvenience."

    Which one is correct?

    Using "has said" doesn't sound natural to me in this context. Can you explain please if there are some nuances?

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    Re: Consistency in Present Perfect Tense

    Try:

    I talked to him. He said he would keep us informed. He apologized for the inconvenience.

    (Say "When we are talking about a recent event" or "When we are telling somebody about a recent event".)

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    Re: Consistency in Present Perfect Tense

    Quote Originally Posted by Franck87 View Post
    "I have talked to him. He has said he would inform us. He has apologised for the inconvenience."
    or
    "I have talked to him. He said he would inform us. He apologised for the inconvenience."

    Which one is correct?
    The second is possible.
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    Re: Consistency in Present Perfect Tense

    Quote Originally Posted by Tarheel View Post
    Try:

    I talked to him. He said he would keep us informed. He apologized for the inconvenience.

    (Say "When we are talking about a recent event" or "When we are telling somebody about a recent event".)
    Thanks Tarhel.
    Why all simple past? Why can't I use present perfect tense for such sequence of recent past events?
    (For example in a context where I want to focus on consequence of my encounter)

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    Re: Consistency in Present Perfect Tense

    Quote Originally Posted by Franck87 View Post
    Thanks Tarhel.
    Why all simple past? Why can't I use present perfect tense for such sequence of recent past events?
    (For example in a context where I want to focus on consequence of my encounter)
    We don't use the present perfect in the subsequent sentences because the first sentence already cast the event into the recent past.
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    Re: Consistency in Present Perfect Tense

    Quote Originally Posted by Franck87 View Post
    When we start telling talking about a recent event using the present perfect, should we use the same tense for all related subsequent events?
    No. You would typically use the past simple for the details.

    [cross-posted with perfect timing!]

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    Re: Consistency in Present Perfect Tense

    Quote Originally Posted by teechar View Post
    No. You would typically use the past simple for the details.

    [cross-posted with perfect timing!]
    Teechar & GoesStation thanks again for your replies.
    Indeed I thought same too.

    However I earlier came accross below explanation on another forum which confused me indeed:
    https://forum.wordreference.com/thre...greed.1829609/
    A similar question was asked before.(I think the context is the same)
    However one forum member replies suggesting consistency in present perfect while other one doesn't see any difference?

    Can you explain please? Thanks again!

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    Re: Consistency in Present Perfect Tense

    The example you cite is different. The reason the present perfect can work in the second sentence of that example is that it (the second sentence) does not give further detail about the first. It presents a separate piece of information.
    Last edited by teechar; 04-Oct-2017 at 23:22.

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    Re: Consistency in Present Perfect Tense

    Quote Originally Posted by Franck87 View Post
    Teechar & GoesStation thanks again for your replies.
    Indeed I thought SO too.

    However I earlier came accross THIS explanation on another forum which confused me indeed:
    https://forum.wordreference.com/thre...greed.1829609/
    A similar question was asked before.(I think the context is the same)
    However one forum member replies suggesting consistency in present perfect while other one doesn't see any difference?

    Can you explain please? Thanks again!
    I haven't clicked on the link to go to the other forum, and I am unlikely to do so. Why? I don't need more information.

    I can tell you this. It's a typical pattern. Example:

    I talked to Ted. He said everything is fine. He said there is no need to worry.

    P.S. Teechar beat me to the punch.
    Last edited by Tarheel; 04-Oct-2017 at 22:13. Reason: Add something

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