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    Participle/gerund

    Why in the first sentence, is "asking" a gerund, but in the second one it is "participle", please?
    1. John suggested asking Bill.
    2. John kept asking Bill.

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    Re: Participle/gerund

    Have you ever thought about the following questions about gerunds and participles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rover_KE View Post
    Most native English-speakers happily spend a lifetime without knowing or caring about the difference.

    Is there a good reason why you need to label -ing words?
    Is somebody forcing you to do so?
    Are you failing exams because of it?
    Does it prevent your understanding of the language?
    Have you nothing more important to worry about?
    I am not a teacher.

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    Re: Participle/gerund

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Wai View Post
    Have you ever thought about the following questions about gerunds and participles?
    For any language is the same, But the one who works on language literature, I think they must know the grammatical reasons.
    they also must be able To recognize the differences between them.

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    Re: Participle/gerund

    Quote Originally Posted by moseen View Post
    Why in the first sentence, is "asking" a gerund, but in the second one it is "participle", please?
    1. John suggested asking Bill.
    2. John kept asking Bill.
    I am not sure it is a gerund in the first sentence. Why do you think it is?

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    Re: Participle/gerund

    Quote Originally Posted by moseen View Post
    For any language is the same, But the one who works on language literature, I think they must know the grammatical reasons.
    they also must be able To recognize the differences between them.
    Yes, but what research have you done on this?

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    Re: Participle/gerund

    Quote Originally Posted by PaulMatthews View Post
    Yes, but what research have you done on this?
    Yes, you are right, "using the form correct is more important than naming it"

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    Re: Participle/gerund

    Quote Originally Posted by Tarheel View Post
    I am not sure it is a gerund in the first sentence. Why do you think it is?
    I read this in the Wikipedia.
    Reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/-ing

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    Re: Participle/gerund

    Quote Originally Posted by moseen View Post
    Why, in the first sentence, is "asking" a gerund, but in the second one it is a (no quotation marks here) participle (no quotation marks here), please?
    1. John suggested asking Bill.
    2. John kept asking Bill.
    Quote Originally Posted by moseen View Post
    For any language, it is the same, but the one anyone who works on language literature (no comma here) I think they must know the grammatical reasons.
    they also must
    should be able to recognize the differences difference between them.
    Quote Originally Posted by moseen View Post
    Yes, you are right, "using the correct form correct is more important than naming it".
    Quote Originally Posted by moseen View Post
    I read this in on the Wikipedia.
    Reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/-ing
    See my corrections above. I'm not sure what you meant by "language literature". Someone studying linguistics would need to know the difference but I don't think an English Literature student needs to.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: Participle/gerund

    1. John suggested something.
    John suggested asking Bill. 'Asking' is a gerund because 'something' is a pronoun.
    2. John kept on asking Bill. 'Asking' is a gerund because it is used after a preposition.
    John kept asking Bill. The preposition can be omitted.
    I am not a teacher.

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    Re: Participle/gerund

    Quote Originally Posted by moseen View Post
    Why in the first sentence, is "asking" a gerund, but in the second one it is "participle", please?
    1. John suggested asking Bill.
    2. John kept asking Bill.
    There is no reason to say there is any difference since in both cases "asking Bill" can be replaced by a direct object, so "asking" in both 1. and 2. would be called a gerund in traditional grammar:

    "John suggested a pet dog for Christmas" / "John kept a pet dog".
    Last edited by PaulMatthews; 22-Oct-2017 at 19:39.

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