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    Throughout the history v. across the history

    Are throughout the history and across the history the same in meaning?

    "Throughout the history of engineering and science from Archimedes to Einstein,
    this endeavor has occupied many great minds, and the evolution of solid mechanics reflects the revolution of applied science for which no end is in sight"

    https://books.google.com.tr/books?id...sight.&f=false

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    Re: Throughout the history v. across the history

    No. 'Across the history' doesn't work.

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    Re: Throughout the history v. across the history

    You would have more freedom with prepositions without stating what the history was of, but even then throughout/over would work better than across.

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    Re: Throughout the history v. across the history

    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    You would have more freedom with prepositions without stating what the history was of, but even then throughout/over would work better than across.
    There are lots of books in Googlebooks including "across the history" so does it have a different meaning than "throughout the history" or is it completely wrong?

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    Re: Throughout the history v. across the history

    Context would probably be helpful here.

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    Re: Throughout the history v. across the history

    Let's look at this.

    "There are grand dividing lines drawn in red ink across the history of all nations." This seems to me exactly the same as the throughout used in the previous example given in #1.

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    Re: Throughout the history v. across the history

    Being unused to to that phrase, it doesn't mean anything to me. However, I understand that you think it means the same as "throughout the history of...." Also, I don't see the necessity of learning a new phrase that means the same as the one I already know. (A seldom seen phrase at that.) Probably it would make sense to me in context. (One sentence is not always enough.)

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    Re: Throughout the history v. across the history

    Quote Originally Posted by Tarheel View Post
    Being unused to to that phrase, it doesn't mean anything to me. However, I understand that you think it means the same as "throughout the history of...." Also, I don't see the necessity of learning a new phrase that means the same as the one I already know. (A seldom seen phrase at that.) Probably it would make sense to me in context. (One sentence is not always enough.)
    Sorry for forgetting the link. I am very distracted these days. I like learning phrases whether they are the same of another or not. Would you please read the link and re-determine again?

    https://books.google.com.tr/books?id...ns.%22&f=false

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    Re: Throughout the history v. across the history

    If you find one example when the other 999 examples don't follow the pattern, what have you found? If you go back to my earlier post, you will find that I said something would work better, not that something was an absolute rule. However, don't be surprised by the results. Prepositional use is not a grammatical issue but a question of collocation and choice. The example you have found could be mixing ideas- red lines tend to be horizontal in writing. The example you started with created an artificial sentence. If you really want to use this, use it. However, it is the right of the listener/reader to think your sentences are unnatural, which they will most of the time.

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    Re: Throughout the history v. across the history

    Is this show that it is old-fashioned?

    https://books.google.com/ngrams/grap...istory%3B%2Cc0

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