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    By the time I joined AMX I had started feeling unwell.

    1) By the time I joined AMX I had started feeling unwell.

    Please check my sentence.

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    Re: By the time I joined AMX I had started feeling unwell.

    Quote Originally Posted by tufguy View Post
    1) By the time I joined AMX, I had started feeling unwell.

    Please check my sentence.
    Note the addition of a comma above. You can also say "By the time I joined AMX, I was already [feeling] unwell."

    Bear in mind that I don't know what "AMX" is so I can't say if the sentence makes sense.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: By the time I joined AMX I had started feeling unwell.

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    Note the addition of a comma above. You can also say "By the time I joined AMX, I was already [feeling] unwell."

    Bear in mind that I don't know what "AMX" is so I can't say if the sentence makes sense.

    It is a company's name.

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    Re: By the time I joined AMX I had started feeling unwell.

    I had worked that out for myself! As long as the company has some relevance to your feeling unwell, it's OK.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: By the time I joined AMX I had started feeling unwell.

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    I had worked that out for myself! As long as the company has some relevance to your feeling unwell, it's OK.
    Sorry for this post but can I also say "By the time I heard his accent I had know he was an American"?

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    Re: By the time I joined AMX I had started feeling unwell.

    Quote Originally Posted by tufguy View Post
    Sorry for this post but can I also say "By the time I heard his accent I had know he was an American"?
    No. "By the time I heard his accent, I already knew he was American".
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: By the time I joined AMX I had started feeling unwell.

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    No. "By the time I heard his accent, I already knew he was American".
    Why can't we use "Present perfect" here? In the previous sentence it was acceptable. What is the reason behind this? What is the proper way of using this structure?

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    Re: By the time I joined AMX I had started feeling unwell.

    If you use the present past perfect, it implies that you knew before you heard his accent. It also suggests that you then stopped knowing that he was American.

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    Re: By the time I joined AMX I had started feeling unwell.

    'By' in 'by the time' means 'before or not later than' according to definition #8 at https://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/by.

    I think 'When' can be used instead of 'By the time' there.
    I am not a teacher.

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    Re: By the time I joined AMX I had started feeling unwell.

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Wai View Post
    'By' in 'by the time' means 'before or not later than' according to definition #8 at https://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/by.

    I think 'When' can be used instead of 'By the time' there.
    Okay, thank you but let me tell you one about an incident.

    I got a call from a consultant. He wanted me to come for an interview but I was a bit reluctant.

    1) By the time we finished talking he had agreed me to come for an interview.

    2) By the time I finished conversation with him I had understood that I had been persuaded by him to come for an interview by him.

    Are these correct?

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