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    Is “even when” a subordinating conjunction similar to “even though”?

    "Even when he is sick, she works."


    The first half is the dependent clause. Is it introduced by "even when"? Or is "even" an adverb qualifying "works"?


    Typically you can move around adverb clauses. If so, which is the correct rewrite of the above to keep same meaning? (Subtle shift between each.)

    She works even when he is sick.
    She even works when he is sick.


    Depending on the above answers, is this grammatically sound? "When he is sick, she even works."

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    Re: Is “even when” a subordinating conjunction similar to “even though”?

    Welcome to the forum.

    Before we consider answering your question, please correct the information in your profile. Your native language might well be English but your home country and current location are clearly incorrect.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: Is “even when” a subordinating conjunction similar to “even though”?

    Quote Originally Posted by please55 View Post
    "Even when he is sick, she works."


    The first half is the dependent clause. Is it introduced by "even when"? Or is "even" an adverb qualifying "works"?

    I'll leave that question to our resident grammarians.


    Typically you can move around adverb clauses. If so, which is the correct rewrite of the above to keep same meaning? (Subtle shift between each.)

    She works even when he is sick.
    She even works when he is sick.

    Both are grammatical and mean the same thing.


    Depending on the above answers, is this grammatically sound? "When he is sick, she even works."

    No. It doesn't make sense.
    I hope that helps a little.
    I'm not a teacher. I speak American English. I've tutored writing at the University of Southern Maine and have done a good deal of copy editing and writing, occasionally for publication.

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    Re: Is “even when” a subordinating conjunction similar to “even though”?

    Well, please55, it's clearly your lucky day. Charlie elected to answer your question despite your failure to correct your member profile as requested in post #2.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: Is “even when” a subordinating conjunction similar to “even though”?

    I did. It was a cross post. We were typing at the same time, so I didn't know you had answered when I hit "Save." And I didn't look at the member info, so I didn't notice Please55 is claiming to be a native English speaker.

    And no, I've never heard of Aaland!
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    Re: Is “even when” a subordinating conjunction similar to “even though”?

    "She works even when she is sick" makes sense, but as for the other one ("She works even he is sick"), not so much.

    As for Aaland, it's not anybody's country of origin, because it's not a country.
    Last edited by emsr2d2; 03-Dec-2017 at 10:09. Reason: Fixed spelling on Aaland

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    Re: Is “even when” a subordinating conjunction similar to “even though”?

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    Well, please55, it's clearly your lucky day. Charlie elected to answer your question despite your failure to correct your member profile as requested in post #2.
    That observation is quickly resolved if you consider I'm not constantly at my computer.

    Thanks for the responses. Unfortunately I'm still unclear as to how to diagram the sentence depending on which structure is the right one. Should I have posted in that sub-forum (Diagramming) instead?

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