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    Species of Acquiescence

    Friends,
    What does the author imply by the underlined direct speech? I hope a broader context would help.

    "But was this species of acquiescence all?"
    "By no means. We put much faith in amusements of a simple kind, such as music, dancing, gymnastic exercises
    generally, cards, certain classes of books, and so forth."
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    Re: Species of Acquiescence

    You're right, more context would help. Here "species" means type; kind. "Acquiescence" means submission.
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    Re: Species of Acquiescence

    Yes, you're not giving us much to go on. My impression is this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Mher View Post
    Friends,
    What does the author mean by the quote?

    I hope a broader context would help. We hope so, too. Please provide it!

    "But was this species of acquiescence all?"

    = Was humoring the lunatic the only thing you did?


    "By no means. We put much faith in amusements of a simple kind, such as music, dancing, gymnastic exercises
    generally, cards, certain classes of books, and so forth."

    = No, we also did different kinds of activities with him.
    Mher, these quotes don't belong in Idioms and Sayings. They belong in Literature.
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    Re: Species of Acquiescence

    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Bernstein View Post
    Yes, you're not giving us much to go on. My impression is this:
    Sorry, friends. I thought this much would help. See the passage below:

    "I may state the system then, in general terms, as one in which the patients were menagés, humored. Wecontradicted no fancies which entered the brains of the mad. On the contrary, we not only indulged but encouraged
    them; and many of our most permanent cures have been thus effected. There is no argument which so touches the
    feeble reason of the madman as the reductio ad absurdum. We have had men, for example, who fancied themselves
    chickens. The cure was, to insist upon the thing as a fact — to accuse the patient of stupidity in not sufficiently
    perceiving it to be a fact — and thus to refuse him any other diet for a week than that which properly appertains to a
    chicken. In this manner a little corn and gravel were made to perform wonders."
    "But was this species of acquiescence all?"
    "By no means. We put much faith in amusements of a simple kind, such as music, dancing, gymnastic exercises
    generally, cards, certain classes of books, and so forth. We affected to treat each individual as if for some ordinary
    physical disorder; and the word 'lunacy' was never employed..."
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    Re: Species of Acquiescence

    Thanks, Mher. In that case, my guess was right. They don't just go along with their patients' fantasies. They also give their patients healthy activities.

    Which Poe story is this from?
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    Re: Species of Acquiescence

    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Bernstein View Post
    Thanks, Mher. In that case, my guess was right. They don't just go along with their patients' fantasies. They also give their patients healthy activities.

    Which Poe story is this from?
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    Re: Species of Acquiescence

    Quote Originally Posted by Tarheel View Post
    How do you know it's Poe?
    I think I saw Mher mention it in another thread.
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    Re: Species of Acquiescence

    Thanks, friends!

    This is an excerpt form "The System of Doctor Tarr and Professor Fether." I am trying to translate it into Armenian, that is why I ask many questions.
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    Re: Species of Acquiescence

    Poe's prose is very dense- it reads well, but is often difficult to break down.

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    Re: Species of Acquiescence

    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    Poe's prose is very dense- it reads well, but is often difficult to break down.
    Indeed! I always praise English for its clear and simple sentences (unlike Armenian). This is not the case with Poe's texts. Long sentences are common here, but the style is unique. It helps to build up the big picture.
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