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    usage of 'on'

    can we say - 'the hunter slept on a tree' ?
    does one use 'compare with' or 'compare to' ?

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    Re: usage of 'on'

    Quote Originally Posted by rats View Post
    can we say - 'the hunter slept on a tree' ?
    does one use 'compare with' or 'compare to' ?

    You could say on a tree, but that would suggest on top of the tree. It is better to say in a tree.

    Compared with and compared to are both good.


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    Talking Re: usage of 'on'

    Hi,
    I think there is more to that, Davy. Look,
    Nothing compares to you
    Will it really make no difference whatsoever if I say
    Nothing compares with you
    ?
    I may be wrong, but I see it this way : if we just want to see the difference we use with
    Please compare sentence a) with sentence b).

    If we mean sth is superior we use to
    Your house is like a palace compared to our humble cottage.
    We also use to when we find similarity
    I would compare Jamiroquai to Stevie Wonder.
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    Re: usage of 'on'

    Quote Originally Posted by Humble View Post
    Hi,
    I think there is more to that, Davy. Look,
    Nothing compares to you
    Will it really make no difference whatsoever if I say
    Nothing compares with you
    ?
    I may be wrong, but I see it this way : if we just want to see the difference we use with
    Please compare sentence a) with sentence b).
    If we mean sth is superior we use to
    Your house is like a palace compared to our humble cottage.
    We also use to when we find similarity
    I would compare Jamiroquai to Stevie Wonder.
    Regards
    Well, the distinctions between 'compare with' and 'compare to' are in dispute among traditional and liberal linguists, but this is the formal answer:

    1) When 'compare' is used intransitively, it must always take 'with' - for example: "Talk does not compare with action."

    2) When the verb is used transitively, and the objects being compared are of like kind, we use 'compare with' because we are emphasising a contrast. For example: "Please write an essay on how Shakespeare compares with Moliere as a dramatist."

    3) Otherwise, we use 'compare to'. This generally involves cases where the verb is used transitively, but more in the sense of a simile between objects of different kinds. For example: "But shall I compare thee to a summer breeze?"

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    Re: usage of 'on'

    The last two contributions are very interesting. I didn't realise that there was a linguistic debate on this subject, but I can see why.
    I cannot argue with the distinctions you both make in your examples, but the differences seem so small and I am sure a lot of people would make a convincing case for the meanings being identical.
    This is one I want to think about more before coming off my fence.
    Just checked Longmans Dictionary of Contemporary English and it makes no distinction between on and with, which I quote as being interesting rather than definitive!
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    Smile Re: usage of 'on'

    hi all,
    thanx a lot for helping me out with the 'compare to 'and 'compare with' . but how can we say ' the hunter slept in a tree' ? 'on' seems to be more appropriate.

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    Re: usage of 'on'

    Quote Originally Posted by rats View Post
    hi all,
    thanx a lot for helping me out with the 'compare to 'and 'compare with' . but how can we say ' the hunter slept in a tree' ? 'on' seems to be more appropriate.

    We often use in to describe a location where you are enclosed- by walls for example in a room. My idea was that the person would be enclosed by the branches of the tree, and therefore in/inside the tree in a sense.

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