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    #21

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    Emma's is not any kind of adjective. It is the possessive form of the proper noun Emma. Its function is to modify the following noun, but that does not change its word class.
    Yes. Emma is a proper noun.

    How about now? I saved this in my notebook.

    "Possessive nouns and pronouns can be considered adjective because they describe nouns"

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    #22

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    Here's the diagram from my diagramming book. It say it's an adjective.
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    #23

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeartShape View Post
    I saved this in my notebook.

    "Possessive nouns and pronouns can be considered adjective because they describe nouns"

    Emma's has none of the characteristics of an adjective except that it modifies a noun. It has all the characteristics of a noun ( which include functioning as a noun modifier).

    Relative clauses and preposition phrases can also modify nouns. That doesn't make them adjectives.

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    #24

    Re: object of preposition

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    Emma's has none of the characteristics of an adjective except that it modifies a noun. It has all the characteristics of a noun ( which include functioning as a noun modifier).

    Relative clauses and preposition phrases can also modify nouns. That doesn't make them adjectives.
    Quoting from the book: "An adjective is a word that modifies, or describes, a noun or pronoun. “

    “Adjective can tell what kind, which one, how many, or how much."

    Accordingly to the meaning above, if we ask the question what kind of class we know it is Emma's class. That's one characteristic in the adjective quoted. In this instance "Emma" is acting as an adjective.

    I am failing to understand your arguments put forward. Are you are arguing nouns cannot act as an adjective?

    Here’s another resource regarding nouns as adjectives.

    https://www.englishclub.com/grammar/nouns-adjective.htm

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    #25

    Re: object of preposition

    Most modern grammarians do not find it helpful to speak of a word in one word class acting/functioning as a word in another class.

    In, for example, a high wall, high, like all prototypical adjectives, has comparative and superlative forms (higher, highest), and it can be modified by intensifiers such as very and extremely. The noun brick does not have these characteristics.

    In a brick wall, brick, like all prototypical nouns, has plural and possessive forms (bricks, brick's, bricks' ). It can function as the subject, direct object and indirect object of a sentence, and as the object/complement of a preposition. The adjective high does not have these characteristics.

    Both nouns and adjectives can act/function as noun modifiers.
    Last edited by Piscean; 21-Apr-2018 at 22:30. Reason: typo

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    Most modern grammarians do not find it helpful to speak of a word in one word class acting/functioning as a word in another class.

    In, for example, a high wall, high, like all prototypical adjectives, has comparative and superlative forms (higher, highest), and it can be modified by intensifiers such as very and extremely. The noun brick does not have these characteristics.

    In a brick wall, brick, like all prototypical nouns, has plural and possessive forms (bricks, brick's, bricks' ). It can function as the subject, direct object and indirect object of a sentence, and as the object/complement of a preposition. The adjective high does not have these characteristics.

    Both nouns and adjectives can sct/function as noun modifiers.
    Such an unhelpful response, talking about superlative and intensifiers I don't see any relevance to "Emma" being an attributive adjective. I think the response was more to do with demonstrating your prowess with words, which I am grateful for adding to my vocabulary.

    No idea what the abbreviated word sct means - so unhelpful.

    So to deduce what you have written are we in agreement that "Emma" acting as an adjective then?

    For some reason I sense we are now in agreement. Have our planetary stars come to alignment?

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    #27

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeartShape View Post
    Such an unhelpful response, talking about superlative and intensifiers I don't see any relevance to "Emma" being an attributive adjective. I think the response was more to do with demonstrating your prowess with words,
    Fine. I will demonstrate my prowess in no more of your threads.

    No idea what the abbreviated word sct means - so unhelpful.
    Sorry. It was a typo, now corrected.

    So to deduce what you have written are we in agreement that "Emma" acting as an adjective then?
    No.

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    #28

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    Fine. I will demonstrate my prowess in no more of your threads.



    Sorry. It was a typo, now corrected.



    No.
    If you quote "Both nouns and adjectives can act/function as noun modifiers." then you are literally saying the same thing as I have been saying all along. hmm....

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    #29

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    There's none so deaf ...

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    #30

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    I think we share the same understanding except you don't like to call it adjective but prefer to call it a noun modifying another noun.

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