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    Post Mental Process and Verbal/Behavioral

    For the clause below would the verbal group "found out" in systematic grammar be classified as a mental or material process?

    3.1 At such a time I found out for certain

    For the clause below, the verbal group process is material, but would the nominal group that follows be classified as a goal or scope?

    4.1 “Hold your noise!”
    Hold your noise
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    Pro: material Goal


    For this clause, would cried by a verbal or behavioral process. To me it is similar to said and is verbal, unlike if you were to say 'I saw her crying". There crying would be behavioral.
    "Hold your noise" cried a terrible voice.
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    Re: Mental Process and Verbal/Behavioral

    This looks like homework. Are you taking a TEFL course?
    “Every miserable fool who has nothing at all of which he can be proud, adopts as a last resource pride in the nation to which he belongs; he is ready and happy to defend all its faults and follies tooth and nail, thus reimbursing himself for his own inferiority.”

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    Re: Mental Process and Verbal/Behavioral

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    This looks like homework. Are you taking a TEFL course?
    I've just finished a grammar unit at university and I was still confused by a couple of things, so I'm just trying to get my head over everything. My tutor suggested looking at Great expectations in the holidays and using what I know to break the first chapter up.

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    Re: Mental Process and Verbal/Behavioral

    For someone who is studying grammar at university, your posts are not very well-presented, to be honest.

    Do you think you could tidy it up and make what you're asking clearer? Then maybe someone will answer.

    In 4.2, please provide a complete clause.

    Thank you

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    Re: Mental Process and Verbal/Behavioral

    Quote Originally Posted by jutfrank View Post
    For someone who is studying grammar at university, your posts are not very well-presented, to be honest.

    Do you think you could tidy it up and make what you're asking clearer? Then maybe someone will answer.

    In 4.2, please provide a complete clause.

    Thank you
    Apologises, this is the way the tutor broke it up.

    The bit before is 'hold your voice cried a terrible voice"

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    Quote Originally Posted by jutfrank View Post
    For someone who is studying grammar at university, your posts are not very well-presented, to be honest.

    Do you think you could tidy it up and make what you're asking clearer? Then maybe someone will answer.

    In 4.2, please provide a complete clause.

    Thank you
    Apologises, this is the way the tutor broke it up, we only had one lecture on this and its my elective so I'm not studying grammar.

    For 4.1 the sentence is "Hold your voice" cried a terrible voice. I believe "cried" to be a verbal process, but I wish to clarify.

    My question with "At such a time I found out for certain" is whether 'found out' in systematic grammar would classify as a mental or material process?

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    Re: Mental Process and Verbal/Behavioral

    cried is a verbal process. It relates to the words uttered. Now you've provided the context, the meaning is clear.

    found out is a mental process. It relates to cognition (or, precisely, to discovering).

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