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Would you please judge this sentence only with respect to English. Self-made sentence.

"The movie developed a faith and that faith became a religion by time.


 

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I don't understand it.
 

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I'm not sure what you mean, either, but I think the last part of the sentence should be:

... and in time this faith became a religion.
 

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I'm not sure what you mean, either, but I think the last part of the sentence should be:

... and in time this faith became a religion.
Why are by time and that wrong?
 
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"The movie developed a faith and that faith became a religion by time.
Hi, hhtt21. Can you flesh out that sentence with a few sentences? "By time" does not work for me at all. Do you mean "after a certain period of time"?
 

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I guess it means "The movie inspired faith, and this faith became a religion over time."
 

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Sounds like it was a real cult classic! :eek:nfire:
 

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Did the faith exist before the movie?
 

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I believe so.:multi:
 

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hhtt21: are you sure you don't mean something like "a cult following" instead of "a faith" in that?
 

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Why are by time and that wrong?

1) It's not wrong to say that.
2) by time is wrong because it doesn't exist. That means it's not part of English usage. You could use in/over/with but not by.

However, we still don't know what thought you want to express so I'm just guessing what you mean.
 

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hhtt21: are you sure you don't mean something like "a cult following" instead of "a faith" in that?

I confused something in the thread. I cannot distinguish between religion and faith.
 

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I still have no idea what you meant in the first place. How can a movie create a religion or a faith?
 

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That link solves nothing, it leads to a non-existent Wikipedia page.
 

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The Star Wars films introduced viewers to the idea of "the Force" and to "Jedis". It's hard to explain either briefly but Jedi knights protect peace in the universe and harness the power of "the Force" to assist them.
In 2001, an online campaign was started by a Star Wars fan (superfan?) suggesting that "Jedi" should be recognised as an official religion because so many fans of the film franchise actually believe in (or at least claim to believe in) the Force. As a result, in the national census in the UK that year, many people (myself included) registered their religion on the official form as "Jedi".

You can read more about the campaign here.

However, post #1 is not factually correct (and still not grammatically correct) because Jedi still hasn't been recognised officially as a religion.
 

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I don't consider the Jedi 'faith' to be a religion by any stretch. It was obviously intended either as a joke or for a way to make a point by almost everyone who registered as such.
 

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There are a few diehard fans who genuinely do appear to treat it as a religion although, like Buddhism, there is no omnipotent deity involved.

The census thing was part joke and part protest against being asked for our religion at all. The idea of having enough people put it on their census form for it to be officially recognised as a religion was shown to be a myth. Seemingly, it wouldn't have mattered if every person in the UK had put "Jedi" in the religion box, it still wouldn't have had to be deemed a religion.
 

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I confused something in the thread. I cannot distinguish between religion and faith.
Something's wrong here. You said that your original sentence was self-written. What did you think you meant?
 
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