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    Smile A Chinese scholar

    It's my translation of a review about a past scholar. I'm not sure whether it's grammatically correct and native speakers can understand it.

    Overall, Wu Cheng was mostly under the influence of Zhu Xi. Subjectively,he also appointed himself to continue the study of Zhu Xi school. But Wu Cheng had less sectarian bias, compared to other ordinary Zhu Xi-school scholars during the late Song dynasty and early Yuan dynasty, which was estimable. Wu Cheng absorbed Confucian heritage from Song dynasty comprehensively, synthesized and developed with his own opinion. He had cultural accomplishment in many aspects. In addition to his proficiency in Confucian classics,he also covered a wide range of subjects in astronomy, geography, medicine and divination etc. His poems and essays were delicate,graceful,elegance and magnificent in various styles. Speaking of the extensive knowledge, predecessors believed that only Wu Cheng can compete with Zhu Xi after Zhu Xiís time.

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    Re: A Chinese scholar

    I think this should go to the Editing and Writing section of the forum.
    The placement of the commas is unusual.
    I am not a teacher or a native speaker.

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    Re: A Chinese scholar

    The OP has used four Chinese commas.
    I am not a teacher.

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    Re: A Chinese scholar

    Quote Originally Posted by tedmc View Post
    I think this should go to the Editing and Writing section of the forum.
    The placement of the commas is unusual.
    Thanks for your suggestion. Should I close this thread after putting it to Editing and Writing section of the forum?
    I should have noticed those commas.

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    Re: A Chinese scholar

    A moderator will move it there.
    I am not a teacher.

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    Re: A Chinese scholar

    Moved.

    Can native speakers follow it? It is fairly specialised stuff, so a lot of the information flashes by. I have minimal knowledge of Confucius, have heard of the Song dynasty, and know nothing of the rest of the cultural points. I am not trying to be critical for the sake of it, but the content flies past a bit like this:

    https://desertdemocrat.files.wordpre...ah-ginger.jpeg

    I honestly think that this is a piece where the opinions of Asians who speak good English would be better than mine.

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    Re: A Chinese scholar

    I am no expert in Chinese culture or philosophy but here is my attempt to make the passage more readable:

    Wu Cheng's philosophy was mostly influenced by Zhu Xi. The former undertook to continue the study of (at the?) Zhu Xi School. But Wu Cheng had less sectarian bias compared to the average Zhu Xi School scholars during the late Song dynasty and early Yuan dynasty, which was expected. Wu Cheng embraced Confucian heritage fully from the Song dynasty, and developed it with his own input. In addition to his proficiency in Confucian classics, he also contributed his knowledge in a wide range of subjects such as astronomy, geography medicine and divination. His poems and essays were polished, graceful, elegant and magnificient. His successors/contemporaries believed that only Wu Cheng could match Zhu Xi in terms of having extensive knowledge during that era.
    I am not a teacher or a native speaker.

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    Re: A Chinese scholar

    Quote Originally Posted by tedmc View Post
    I am no expert in Chinese culture or philosophy but here is my attempt to make the passage more readable:

    Wu Cheng's philosophy was mostly influenced by Zhu Xi. The former undertook to continue the study of (at the?) Zhu Xi School. But Wu Cheng had less sectarian bias compared to the average Zhu Xi School scholars during the late Song dynasty and early Yuan dynasty, which was expected. Wu Cheng embraced Confucian heritage fully from the Song dynasty, and developed it with his own input. In addition to his proficiency in Confucian classics, he also contributed his knowledge in a wide range of subjects such as astronomy, geography medicine and divination. His poems and essays were polished, graceful, elegant and magnificient. His successors/contemporaries believed that only Wu Cheng could match Zhu Xi in terms of having extensive knowledge during that era.
    Your version is much better and logical than mine. I just translated it literally, but you made it sound understandable. Thank you! I made a little change based on your correction.

    In general, Wu Cheng's philosophy was mostly influenced by Zhu Xi. The former undertook to extend Zhu Xi School. But Wu Cheng had less sectarian bias compared to the average Zhu Xi School scholars during the late Song dynasty and early Yuan dynasty, which was rare and commendable. Wu Cheng embraced Confucian heritage fully from the Song dynasty, and developed it with his own input. In addition to his proficiency in Confucian classics, he also contributed his knowledge in a wide range of subjects such as astronomy, geography, medicine and divination. His poems and essays were polished, graceful, elegant and magnificent. His contemporaries believed that only Wu Cheng could match Zhu Xi in terms of having extensive knowledge during that era.

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    Re: A Chinese scholar

    It does read better now.

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    Re: A Chinese scholar

    Quote Originally Posted by *^^* View Post
    In general, Wu Cheng's philosophy was mostly influenced by Zhu Xi. The former undertook to extend develop Zhu Xi's school of thought, but Wu Cheng had less sectarian bias compared to than the average Zhu Xi School scholar during the late Song dynasty and early Yuan dynasty, which was rare and commendable. Wu Cheng embraced Confucian heritage fully from the Song dynasty, and developed it with his own input. In addition to his proficiency in Confucian classics, he also contributed used his knowledge in a wide range of subjects such as astronomy, geography, medicine and divination to promote Zhu Xi's ideas. His poems and essays were polished, graceful, elegant and magnificent. His contemporaries believed that only Wu Cheng could match Zhu Xi in terms of having extensive knowledge during that era.
    Does that work?

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