They clinged to that.

Status
Not open for further replies.

probus

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Jan 7, 2011
Member Type
Retired English Teacher
Native Language
English
Home Country
Canada
Current Location
Canada
No. He says "They cling to that." The past tense is not clinged anyway. It is clung.
 
Last edited:

suprunp

Senior Member
Joined
Apr 27, 2011
Member Type
Student or Learner
Native Language
Ukrainian
Home Country
Ukraine
Current Location
Ukraine

Tdol

No Longer With Us (RIP)
Staff member
Joined
Nov 13, 2002
Native Language
British English
Home Country
UK
Current Location
Japan
He does make the final sound quite long, which is probably why you heard it that way.
 

probus

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Jan 7, 2011
Member Type
Retired English Teacher
Native Language
English
Home Country
Canada
Current Location
Canada
He does make the final sound quite long, which is probably why you heard it that way.

Yes, I too almost felt I heard it, but knowing it was impossible I just ruled it out.
 

suprunp

Senior Member
Joined
Apr 27, 2011
Member Type
Student or Learner
Native Language
Ukrainian
Home Country
Ukraine
Current Location
Ukraine
Yes, I too almost felt I heard it, but knowing it was impossible I just ruled it out.

How come it's impossible?

cling > clung > clung
Cling to the strong past forms, despite pitiable shift toward weakening them.
[Several Examples]
(Garner's Modern American Usage)

The tight t-shirt clinged to the muscles in his arms.
(Science-Fiction from the Clothing Department; Rebekah Rodney)

The mud still clinged to Bobby's torso [...]
(Tarnished Halos: Angels in School Clothes; Linda McDonald Davis)

The stinky rotten smell of sewer rats and mouldy food clinged to me [...]
(Flame-Girl; Laura-Louise Slattery)
 

emsr2d2

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Jul 28, 2009
Member Type
English Teacher
Native Language
British English
Home Country
UK
Current Location
UK
I consider all three examples (and any other) of "clinged" incorrect.
 

suprunp

Senior Member
Joined
Apr 27, 2011
Member Type
Student or Learner
Native Language
Ukrainian
Home Country
Ukraine
Current Location
Ukraine
I consider all three examples (and any other) of "clinged" incorrect.
They may be incorrect, but they are definitely not 'impossible', which was the point.
 

suprunp

Senior Member
Joined
Apr 27, 2011
Member Type
Student or Learner
Native Language
Ukrainian
Home Country
Ukraine
Current Location
Ukraine
Nothing is 'impossible in language 'I were difacolt when I be yung' is possible - I just wrote it!

I hope there's no 'pitiable shift toward' difacolt becoming a form of difficult, unlike with the strong past forms of cling being slightly weakened.
 

probus

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Jan 7, 2011
Member Type
Retired English Teacher
Native Language
English
Home Country
Canada
Current Location
Canada
Nothing is 'impossible in language 'I were difacolt when I be yung' is possible - I just wrote it! However, I think most people would understand probus's 'impossible' to mean 'not possible within the norms that most people accept for standard English'.

What I meant was this. The OP invited us to listen to the speech of someone who was obviously a native speaker. I considered it impossible that a native speaker could have said clinged. I stand by that.

Sorry the OP seems too dense to get it.
 
Last edited:

jutfrank

VIP Member
Joined
Mar 5, 2014
Member Type
English Teacher
Native Language
English
Home Country
England
Current Location
England
They liked that so much. Because they said "We can go right ahead and do what we're doing. We just have to do a few little things differently and we'll be okay." They, they cling/clinged to that.

In light of the fact that the narrative is actually set in the past, and that to mark this he has already used the past tense twice in the previous passage, I'm starting to think he could quite possibly have said clinged. In fact, it makes slightly more sense given the context, doesn't it?
 

jutfrank

VIP Member
Joined
Mar 5, 2014
Member Type
English Teacher
Native Language
English
Home Country
England
Current Location
England
The present-tense form is perfectly reasonable, especially as the next verb the speaker uses is present-tense 'think'. He has switched from how 'they' felt in the past to how they feel now.

Yes, I think that if forced, and without my trusty spectrometer at hand, I would guess that he uses the present-tense cling.
 

suprunp

Senior Member
Joined
Apr 27, 2011
Member Type
Student or Learner
Native Language
Ukrainian
Home Country
Ukraine
Current Location
Ukraine
What I meant was this. The OP invited us to listen to the speech of someone who was obviously a native speaker. I considered it impossible that a native speaker could have said clinged. I stand by that.

Sorry the OP seems too dense to get it.

Just as I invited you to have a look at some of the links I provided in this post. But some ostensibly native English speakers seem to be pitiably closed-minded. My abject apologies I was too dense to get it right away.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top