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  1. matilda
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    Hello all

    What does this sentence mean?

    Abner Doubleday WAS GIVEN CREDIT this invention.

    Regards

    Matilda

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    Re: 227-was given credit

    Quote Originally Posted by matilda View Post
    Hello all
    What does this sentence mean?
    Abner Doubleday WAS GIVEN CREDIT this invention.
    Regards
    Matilda
    I think it should be given credit for this invention.


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    More context is needed. But I think Abner Doubleday WAS GIVEN CREDITfor this invention. Maybe credit means money given.

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    yes dear davy. i didn't type it correctly.the correct sentence is here.

    abner Doubleday was given credit for this invention.

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    Re: 227-was given credit

    Quote Originally Posted by matilda
    Hello all

    What does this sentence mean?

    Abner Doubleday WAS GIVEN CREDIT for this invention.

    Regards

    Matilda
    Perhaps,it means "was given award".

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    Re: 227-was given credit

    Quote Originally Posted by Fazzu View Post
    Perhaps,it means "was given award".
    Here "credit" means "acknowledgement, recognition, or praise"

    Consider the following examples:

    Employee complaining to his friend:
    I did all the work on the project, but my boss got all the credit.

    That means, people thought that his boss had done the project himself,
    or that they gave him recognition, or praised him for the project
    and the employee who had done the real work was not mentioned or
    acknowledged.

    If you read any research papers, you can see that in some of them,
    the professor's name is mentioned as a co-author, along with the
    student researcher. In this case, the student and the professor
    are sharing credit for the research paper. Or, you can
    say they got "joint credit" for the research paper.

    In case of Matilda's sentence, it means Abner Doubleday was recognized
    as having invented whatever he invented (the sentence does not
    tell us about it). Most likely it refers to baseball.

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    Re: 227-was given credit

    Thanks for correcting me Englishstudent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by englishstudent View Post
    Here "credit" means "acknowledgement, recognition, or praise"
    Consider the following examples:
    Employee complaining to his friend:
    I did all the work on the project, but my boss got all the credit.
    That means, people thought that his boss had done the project himself,
    or that they gave him recognition, or praised him for the project
    and the employee who had done the real work was not mentioned or
    acknowledged.
    If you read any research papers, you can see that in some of them,
    the professor's name is mentioned as a co-author, along with the
    student researcher. In this case, the student and the professor
    are sharing credit for the research paper. Or, you can
    say they got "joint credit" for the research paper.
    In case of Matilda's sentence, it means Abner Doubleday was recognized
    as having invented whatever he invented (the sentence does not
    tell us about it). Most likely it refers to baseball.


    so as what you said, it means that Abner Doubleday was not the inventor of Baseball. but most people think that he was the inventor of baseball. did you mean this?

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    Hi Matilda,

    I hope Englishstudent was saying that he was recognised/praised for what he(Abner) has invented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matilda View Post
    so as what you said, it means that Abner Doubleday was not the inventor of Baseball. but most people think that he was the inventor of baseball. did you mean this?
    Hi Matilda,

    that meaning was not implied in my earlier response.
    I only specified the meaning of "credit" as "recognized".
    Without context, or additional information, it is not
    possible to come to the conclusion that he was or was not
    the inventor of baseball.

    As I understand it (I could be wrong, and if so, I hope
    someone would correct me), Doubleday did not claim that
    he invented baseball. But, people gave him credit/recognition
    for the invention.

    Consider another example:

    As you may know, Marconi is considered to be the inventor of radio.
    In other words, Marconi WAS GIVEN CREDIT for this invention (radio).
    At least that is what we learned in school (just because
    that is what was in the textbook). But it turns out there are
    other people who should have got credit. Nicola Tesla had
    actually demonstrated wireless communication in 1893, and had
    written articles describing his apparatus in detail. In 1895, Marconi
    presented his radio device in London and claimed it as his invention,
    even though his device resembled that of Tesla.
    Two other people, the Russian scientist Alexander Popov and
    the Indian scientist Jagdish Chandra Bose also demonstrated
    application of electromagnetic waves. There are many people
    who had done work in this area (of wireless communication and
    electromagnetic waves), and there are other contenders than those
    mentioned above for the 'inventor' claim. Supporters/admirers of
    each scientist feel that their scientist should get the credit as inventor of radio.

    Regardless of who actually invented the radio, most textbooks
    say that Marconi was the inventor. In other words, Marconi was
    given credit for the invention of radio. But, suppose now
    people decide that Nicola Tesla did it ealier than Marconi,
    and therefore, he is the real inventor, then we would say
    "Earlier Marconi was given the credit for this invention,
    but now Tesla is given the credit for it.
    "

    I am sorry if I confused you with this convoluted example, but I am trying
    to say that the words "was given the credit for this invention"
    don't tell us if that person actually invented it or not. We need
    additional details to come to that conclusion. "Was given the
    credit for this invention" simply tells us that people recognize/accept
    that person to be the inventor.

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