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    Correct interpretation

    "This diagram indicates the signal being switched from A to B."

    a) This diagram indicates that the signal is being switched from A to B.
    b) This diagram indicates the signal which is being switched from A to B.

    How about this sentence?
    "I do not like him doing such a thing."

    a) I do not like that he does such a thing.
    b) I do not like him who does such a thing.

    [OOps! Sorry, gorikaz. I hit the edit key instead of the quote key. My apologies. Please see my response below. ]
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    Re: Correct interpretation

    Hi

    "This diagram indicates the signal being switched from A to B."

    a) This diagram indicates that the signal is being switched from A to B.
    b) This diagram indicates the signal which is being switched from A to B.
    c) This diagram indicates the signal being switched from A to B.

    How about this sentence?
    "I do not like him doing such a thing."

    a) I do not like that he does such a thing.
    b) I do not like him who does such a thing.

    Try, I don't like the fact that he is doing it.

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    Re: Correct interpretation

    Dear Casiopia:

    I see...this is the way the sentences should be interpreted.

    However, please help me a little bit more since I am still confused in interpreting some sentences like:

    1. This (diagram, data, etc.)shows the signal using A and B.
    (Here, does "using A and B" modify the signal? If so, the meaning of the sentence will be "This shows the signal which uses A and B." Or does this sentence mean "This shows the way the signal is using A and B"?)

    If I say, "this is the signal using A and B," is it interpreted differently from the above 1? Here, isn't "the singnal" modified by "using A and B"?

    2. This (diagram, data, etc.) shows the signal indicating A and B.
    (Here, does this mean "This shows the way the signal is indicating A and B"? Can it possibly be interpreted like "This shows the signal which indicates A and B"?)

    What I am confused is whether the nouns before the "~ing" form can be modified or not in these cases. For example, in the sentence like "English has an alphabet consisting of 26 letters," "consisting of 26 letters" modifies "an alphabet," right?

    Sorry, I cannot explain well enough my points. Any advice is appreciated. Thank you.

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    Re: Correct interpretation

    Hello, gorikaz.

    1. ... the signal using A and B.
    => The signal is doing something.

    2. ... the signal indicating A and B.
    => The signal is doing something.

    3. English has an alphabet consisting of 26 letters.

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    Re: Correct interpretation

    Quote Originally Posted by gorikaz View Post
    How about this sentence?
    "I do not like him doing such a thing."
    a) I do not like that he does such a thing.
    b) I do not like him who does such a thing.
    The strictly correct format is neither: it is "I do not like his doing such a thing".

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    Re: Correct interpretation

    1. "I do not like his doing such a thing."
    2. "I do not like him doing such a thing."

    I would make a slight distinction between the two forms. #1 focuses on the action; #2 focuses on both the agent and the action.

    Cf.

    3. I don't like his playing football in the street.
    4. I don't like him playing football in the street.

    Here, #4 expresses the mother's concern for her son; but #3 is less personal, and focuses on the mother's dislike of the activity.

    MrP

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