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    #1

    all havenít passed the test

    --Mr Smith, are you satisfied with the studentsí grades?
    --Yes, although ____ havenít passed the test, they tried their best.

    A. all
    B. none
    C. those
    D. ones

    (from my exercise book)


    The answer key is A. I wonder if Ďall havenít passed the testí means Ďnone of them has passed the testí.

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    #2

    Re: all havenít passed the test

    Who set that dreadful exercise? There's no natural-sounding option.

    A comes closest and means what you think.

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    #3

    Re: all havenít passed the test

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    What if we changed haven't to has?

    --Mr Smith, are you satisfied with the students’ grades?
    --Yes, although ____ (of them) has passed the test, they tried their best.

    Would "...although
    none (of them) has passed..." be correct?

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    #4

    Re: all havenít passed the test

    Quote Originally Posted by Glizdka View Post

    Would "...although
    none (of them) has passed..." be correct?
    Yes, it would. As would, none of them have passed.


    As for the original question, I don't take all haven't passed to mean all have failed. I understand that to mean not all of them passed.
    I am not a teacher

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    Re: all havenít passed the test

    Quote Originally Posted by Glizdka View Post
    What if we changed haven't to has?

    --Mr Smith, are you satisfied with the students’ grades?
    --Yes, although _all___ (of them) have passed the test, they tried their best.
    That doesn't work. If they all passed the test, the second sentence becomes a non sequitur.

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    Re: all havenít passed the test

    It's hard to believe that such a question would be published.

    Are you sure you copied the question correctly? Which book is this taken from? Please tell us the title and author.

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    Re: all havenít passed the test

    Quote Originally Posted by diamondcutter View Post
    --Mr Smith, are you satisfied with the studentsí grades?
    --Yes, although ____ havenít passed the test, they tried their best.

    A. all
    B. none
    C. those
    D. ones

    (from my exercise book)


    The answer key is A. I wonder if Ďall havenít passed the testí means Ďnone of them has passed the testí.
    Yes, if you take it literally. But I don't believe it was meant that way. I tell you what. I'll give you the sentences, and you devise the exercise.

    A: Mr. Smith, are you satisfied with the students' grades?
    B: Yes, although not all of them passed the test, I believe they did their best.
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    Re: all havenít passed the test

    Quote Originally Posted by jutfrank View Post
    It's hard to believe that such a question would be published.

    Are you sure you copied the question correctly? Which book is this taken from? Please tell us the title and author.
    This is the picture of the question. I'm sure I copied it correctly.
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    The exercise book is edited for junior high school students in Henan Province to prepare for the Senior High School Entrance Examination in Henan Province, published by Elephant Press and the author is not mentioned.

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    #9

    Re: all havenít passed the test

    Thank you.

    Question 2 in that link has a non sequitur in the response, too. A better one would be 'Thank you. I've been trying hard'.

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