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    China-born, Chinese-born

    Chinese-born American shooter makes historic appearance at National Games
    TIANJIN, Aug.30 (Xinhua) -- China-born American Jay Shi made history at the Chinese National Games here on Monday simply by starting the men's 50m pistol competition at the Tuanbo Lake Shooting Range.
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    Are these two words synonymous?

    Last edited by sitifan; 13-Jul-2019 at 13:53.
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    #2

    Re: China-born, Chinese-born

    I prefer the adjectival version.

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    Re: China-born, Chinese-born

    Only the adjectival form is correct, IMO.

    Compare British-born/Britain-born; Welsh-born/Wales-born; Danish-born/Denmark-born.

    Only the first of each pair sound right to me.

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    Re: China-born, Chinese-born

    I suppose it depends on whether that person has the nationality of the country they were born in. If someone, say, of American nationality happened to have a baby while in Britain, that child would be Britain-born but not British-born.

    Having said that, I find "Britain-born" unnatural!
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    #5

    Re: China-born, Chinese-born

    The problem is that "Chinese" is ambiguous. Does "Chinese-born" mean "born in China" or "ethnically Chinese"?
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    Re: China-born, Chinese-born

    It would be odd indeed to describe a European born in China as Chinese-born.
    Last edited by tedmc; 13-Jul-2019 at 04:18.
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    Re: China-born, Chinese-born

    Would he not have Chinese nationality as well as British?

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    Re: China-born, Chinese-born

    I'm not familiar with Chinese nationality laws but that's certainly not the case in every country.

    In the past, it was true that a child born in the UK was automatically entitled to British citizenship. Unfortunately, that fact led to a problem with heavily pregnant women from some other parts of the world flying to the UK with the express intention of giving birth here. That would then lead, later, to the child's parents, grandparents and sometimes extended family applying for residency in the UK on the basis of that child being British. That loophole has been closed. Now, if a child is born in the UK, it is only entitled to British citizenship if at least one of its parents is also British or holds settled status in the UK.

    That's why a child born here isn't necessarily "British-born".
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    Re: China-born, Chinese-born

    Quote Originally Posted by Rover_KE View Post
    Would he not have Chinese nationality as well as British?
    The Chinese government do not grant citizenship easily and or allow dual citizenship. I don't think children of expatriates who are born in the country are granted citizenship.
    I have a friend, a Chinese Malaysian, who has stayed in the country for decades and owns a factory there but has not been granted permanent residenceship.
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    #10

    Re: China-born, Chinese-born

    Quote Originally Posted by Rover_KE View Post
    Only the adjectival form is correct, IMO.

    Compare British-born/Britain-born; Welsh-born/Wales-born; Danish-born/Denmark-born.

    Only the first of each pair sound right to me.
    Wales is not an independent country, so no one can have Welsh citizenship. Is my understanding correct?
    Last edited by sitifan; 13-Jul-2019 at 13:09.
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