# Thread: When Chris had turned off the lights in the room, he went to bed.

1. ## When Chris had turned off the lights in the room, he went to bed.

Source : Grammar Zone by Neungryul Education, p50, C1

1. Chris turned off the lights in the room. Then he went to bed.
=>a. When Chris had turned off the lights in the room, he went to bed.
b. When Chris went to bed, he had turned off the lights in the room.

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In this paraphrasing, a is the answer, but can b be the answer as well?

2. ## Re: When Chris had turned off the lights in the room, he went to bed.

I think so, but (a) is more logical with the second action following shortly after the first.

3. ## Re: When Chris had turned off the lights in the room, he went to bed.

The past perfect is better when there is a clearer sequence of action following prior action:

Before Chris went to bed, he had turned off the light in his room.

Especially as the first word in a sentence, "when" tends to imply simultaneity rather than sequence.

4. ## Re: When Chris had turned off the lights in the room, he went to bed.

There is a model sentence as below to follow in the question, then the question maker probably made an awkward sentence form according to abaka, I guess.

Model sentence
Ann finished her lunch. Then she sat down to read a book.
=> When Ann had finished her lunch. she sat down to read a book.(X)

It should be corrected to this.
Before Ann sat down to read a book, she had finished her lunch.(O)

5. ## Re: When Chris had turned off the lights in the room, he went to bed.

Originally Posted by abaka
The past perfect is better when there is a clearer sequence of action following prior action:

Before Chris went to bed, he had turned off the light in his room.
The word 'before' in your sentence clearly establishes the sequence of events. The past perfect is not incorrect, but the past simple suffices.

6. ## Re: When Chris had turned off the lights in the room, he went to bed.

Originally Posted by keannu
Ann finished her lunch. Then she sat down to read a book.
=> When Ann had finished her lunch. she sat down to read a book.(X)

It should be corrected to this.
Before Ann sat down to read a book, she had finished her lunch.(O)
The sentence in red is fine.
There is no need for a past perfect in the sentence in green.

7. ## Re: When Chris had turned off the lights in the room, he went to bed.

abaka, please read post #5 in the thread 'If you have the time'.

8. ## Re: When Chris had turned off the lights in the room, he went to bed.

Originally Posted by keannu
In this paraphrasing, a is the answer, but can b be the answer as well?
The answer to what? What's the question?

9. ## Re: When Chris had turned off the lights in the room, he went to bed.

The question is what is the correct paraphrased sentence of the original sentence.

10. ## Re: When Chris had turned off the lights in the room, he went to bed.

Originally Posted by keannu
1. Chris turned off the lights in the room. Then he went to bed.

=>a. When Chris had turned off the lights in the room, he went to bed.
b. When Chris went to bed, he had turned off the lights in the room.
(a) is the more natural.

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