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    Poor and pour

    Are poor and pour pronounced the same?
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    Re: Poor and pour

    Not in my dialect. We use the same vowel sound in poor as in school, and make pour rhyme with for. I call my dialect mainstream American English.

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    Re: Poor and pour

    According to John Wells, 74% of speakers of BrE pronounce both words in the same way.

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    Re: Poor and pour

    Quote Originally Posted by Piscean View Post
    According to John Wells, 74% of speakers of BrE pronounce both words in the same way.
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    Re: Poor and pour

    Quote Originally Posted by NamelessKing View Post
    Are poor and pour pronounced the same?
    This American pronounces them the same. I don't think I've ever heard an American pronounce poor with the same vowel as school.
    I am not a teacher.

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    Re: Poor and pour

    When I was discussing this once with (name-drop deleted), he said that he had been surprised to discover, when he first tried out a spectogram, how different his poor and pour vowels were. He shattered my own illusions when I said I thought that I produced (slightly) different vowels in paw, pore, poor and pour. He said that my paw vowel was occasionally slightly longer than, but exactly the same quality as, that in the other three words. He would use the same transcription for my vowel in all four words, even in narrow phonetic transcription.

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    #7

    Re: Poor and pour

    Forvo is a great tool for listening to native speakers' pronunciation of thousands of words. If you click here, you can listen to 14 native speakers saying the word "poor". Once you've listened to them, enter the word "pour" in the search box and listen to those too.

    Let us know if you hear any differences.
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    #8

    Re: Poor and pour

    I did hear differences there. The most marked was that some were pure vowels and some diphthongs.
    Last edited by probus; 31-Aug-2019 at 12:26. Reason: Fix typo

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    #9

    Re: Poor and pour

    I'm one of the BrE speakers for whom they sound the same, and both sound like for.

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