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    so I stopped

    "The dog started barking so the cat ran away and I couldn’t keep up, so I stopped."

    I got this sentence in a site. I understand that the first so is subordinating conjunction, because it can be replaced with 'so that'. The second so is coordinating conjunction, because it can be replaced with 'therefore'.

    To my surprise, the site says that 'so I stopped' is a dependent clause. I think 'I stopped' is rather an independent clause as the 'so' preceding it is a coordinating conjunction.

    Am I right?

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    Why are you concerned about what kind of conjunctions those are?

    That's a terrible sentence. It doesn't make a lot of sense, so it's not a good idea to analyse it. Please post a link to the website where you saw it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jutfrank View Post
    Why are you concerned about what kind of conjunctions those are?

    That's a terrible sentence. It doesn't make a lot of sense, so it's not a good idea to analyse it. Please post a link to the website where you saw it.
    https://englishsentences.com/compound-complex-sentence/

    I need to clear my conjunction concept.

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    Re: so I stopped

    Take my advice and find a different resource.

    The example sentences there are poor. The one in post #1 is especially poor. Remember that before you attempt to analyse the grammar of sentences, you must be sure that you understand the meaning first. Unfortunately, you have misunderstood the meaning of that sentence, which has led you to an incorrect analysis.

    The first so cannot be replaced with so that.

    I'm guessing that a large part of the reason you misunderstood that example sentence is precisely that it is so badly written.

    Also, the analysis is wrong. The final so is not a subordinating conjunction.

    Find a different site. Stay as far away from that one as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jutfrank View Post
    Take my advice and find a different resource.

    The example sentences there are poor. The one in post #1 is especially poor. Remember that before you attempt to analyse the grammar of sentences, you must be sure that you understand the meaning first. Unfortunately, you have misunderstood the meaning of that sentence, which has led you to an incorrect analysis.

    The first so cannot be replaced with so that.

    I'm guessing that a large part of the reason why you misunderstood that example sentence is precisely that it is so badly written.
    Please provide me a good resource to clearly understand the concept of 'so' -- when and how it is used as a coordinating and a subordinating conjunction. Or just explain it with a standard example here in a 'compound-complex' sentence.

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    Re: so I stopped

    This one is quite high-level, but it's well-written, comprehensive, and accurate:

    https://www.quickanddirtytips.com/ed...nctions?page=1

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    Re: so I stopped

    Quote Originally Posted by jutfrank View Post
    Take my advice and find a different resource.

    The example sentences there are poor. The one in post #1 is especially poor. Remember that before you attempt to analyse the grammar of sentences, you must be sure that you understand the meaning first. Unfortunately, you have misunderstood the meaning of that sentence, which has led you to an incorrect analysis.

    The first so cannot be replaced with so that.

    I'm guessing that a large part of the reason you misunderstood that example sentence is precisely that it is so badly written.

    Also, the analysis is wrong. The final so is not a subordinating conjunction.

    Find a different site. Stay as far away from that one as possible.
    Please refer to my analysis in #1: I haven’t said that the final so is a subordinate conjunction. I have said that it is a coordinating conjunction.

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    #8

    Re: so I stopped

    I know. I meant that it's the website's analysis that is wrong. As you rightly point out in post #1, the so there expresses a result, not a purpose.

    Sorry I didn't make that clear enough.

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    Ugh. Even the section headings are wrong, despite the fact they aren't even full sentences.

    5. How to Avoiding Avoid Run-on Sentences and Comma Splices
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