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    This part talks about the difference between some structures when they are used to express arrangements and intentions. But some sample sentences make me confused, especially these two groups.

    1a. You won’t believe this.
    1b. You’re not going to believe this.

    2a. Next year will be different.
    2b. Next year is going to be different.

    I wonder if the these sentences talk about predictions, not arrangements or intentions.

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    Re: predictions or arrangements and intentions

    #1 is a prediction.
    #2 is probably a prediction. It might be an arrangement or intention, but would need some further context to be so.

    Swan is an excellent reference for very advanced students and for teachers. I wish you didn't have this book. Its a bit like looking in a chemistry book when you want to bake a cake.
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    Re: predictions or arrangements and intentions

    Quote Originally Posted by J&K Tutoring View Post
    #1 is a prediction.
    #2 is probably a prediction. It might be an arrangement or intention, but would need some further context to be so.

    Swan is an excelent reference for very advanced students and for teachers. I wish you didn't have this book. Its a bit like looking in a chemistry book when you want to bake a cake.
    1a. You won’t believe this.
    1b. You’re not going to believe this.

    Since both sentences express prediction, I’d like to know the difference between them.
    I wonder if the difference is that 1a. shows that the speaker is 80% sure of his prediction while 1b, 90%.

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    #4

    Re: predictions or arrangements and intentions

    In common usage they have the same meaning.

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    #5

    Re: predictions or arrangements and intentions

    1. You won't believe this.
    2. You're not going to believe this.


    I think the second one is perhaps more emphatic. It's something you might say if you have something really incredible to tell somebody.
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    Re: predictions or arrangements and intentions

    Diamondcutter, since you seem to know, maybe you can explain what, grammatically speaking, an arrangement is.

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    Re: predictions or arrangements and intentions

    Quote Originally Posted by Tarheel View Post
    Diamondcutter, since you seem to know, maybe you can explain what, grammatically speaking, an arrangement is.
    I read this in a collins dictioanry.Arrangements are plans and preparations which you make so that something will happen or be possible.

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    Re: predictions or arrangements and intentions

    Quote Originally Posted by diamondcutter View Post
    I wonder if the difference is that 1a. shows that the speaker is 80% sure of his prediction while 1b, 90%.
    No, that is definitely not the right way to understand the difference.

    For now, at this point in your learning, you just need to know that they have effectively the same meaning.

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    Re: predictions or arrangements and intentions

    Quote Originally Posted by jutfrank View Post
    No, that is definitely not the right way to understand the difference.

    For now, at this point in your learning, you just need to know that they have effectively the same meaning.
    In fact, I'm a teacher of English in China, teaching both primary and high school students. I'm not a native English speaker. Chinese is my mother tongue. Sometimes my students ask me this kind of question. I think maybe it’s necessary for me to know the difference although there’s no need to tell my students. I wonder if you could tell me the difference between the two sample sentences from your point of view.

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    Re: predictions or arrangements and intentions

    Just tell your students there is no difference between the two versions and that their time could be better spent learning other aspects of the language, rather than splitting hairs trying to pick out the difference in different context.
    I am not a teacher or a native speaker.

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