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    #1

    Have and half

    Does have and half sound the same?

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    #2

    Re: Have and half

    It could, depending on accent. In my own use my upper teeth meet with my lower lip for 'have' and the sound of the 'v' is more noticeable. With 'half', my teeth and lip don't meet and there is a push of breath. But regardless of accent, use of either would be understood in context.

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    #3

    Re: Have and half

    For native speakers of BrE in the south of England, not at all, no.

    Half = harf
    Have = hav
    Halve = harv

    (Sorry, I don't do phonetic symbols.)
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: Have and half

    I can't imagine that any native speaker pronounces them the same, regardless of accent. Have ends in a voiced fricative consonant, half in a voiceless one.

    Have and halve are the same in American English.
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    #5

    Re: Have and half

    In Standard American English, "half" sounds like "have" only in the phrase "have to".

    In "have to" (as in "I have to go now"), "have" is pronounced /hæf/ instead of the usual /hæv/. And in Standard American English, "half" is also pronounced /hæf/.
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    Re: Have and half

    And in standard British pronunciation, it's like this:

    have /hæv/
    half /ha:f/

    You can hear the vowels are quite different.

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    Re: Have and half

    "Have to" can certainly sound like "haff to" in spoken BrE. However, "haff" doesn't sound the same as "half" for about 50% of the population of the UK.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: Have and half

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    "haff" doesn't sound the same as "half" for about 50% of the population of the UK.
    Yes. Including natives of Manchester, where NamelessKing currently resides.

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    #9

    Re: Have and half

    Quote Originally Posted by jutfrank View Post
    Yes. Including natives of Manchester, where NamelessKing currently resides.
    In that case, the NamelessKing would be well advised to be aware that sounds are not universal in English.

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    #10

    Re: Have and half

    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    In that case, the NamelessKing would be well advised to be aware that sounds are not universal in English.
    Indeed, they aren't. I watch content mainly in AmE and I don't really pay too much attention to the wide variety of accents in Oxford Road.
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