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    7 a.m. | 7 p.m.

    I'm confused. I don't know if periods should be added after each initial in a.m. and p.m.; I'm also not sure whether AM and PM should be capitalised. I'm almost sure there should be a space between 7 and am or pm, but at the same time I think I've seen all possible combinations.

    Little help? Which do you personally use, and which do you advise against using?

    7 AM | 7 PM
    7 A.M. | 7 P.M.
    7AM | 7PM
    7A.M. | 7P.M.
    7 am | 7pm
    7 a.m. | 7 p.m.
    7am | 7pm
    7a.m. | 7p.m.

    I like how 7 a.m. and 7 p.m. look. Are they correct?

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    Re: 7 a.m. | 7 p.m.

    This is what I use personally, and by extension what I teach my students:

    7 a.m.


    • Use a space
    • Use dots after each letter
    • Use lower case


    You'll get lots of different answers about this. I've noticed over the years that even among the expert members on this site, there is considerable variation.

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    Re: 7 a.m. | 7 p.m.

    Quote Originally Posted by Glizdka View Post
    I like how 7 a.m. and 7 p.m. look. Are they correct?
    Yes. It looks good like that, right?

    No space makes it look too cluttered.
    The dots break things up nicely for readability.
    Capitals seems rather brash (although our American friends might disagree!).

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    Re: 7 a.m. | 7 p.m.

    I write 7am because it takes three fewer keystrokes and doesn't look so fussy.

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    Re: 7 a.m. | 7 p.m.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rover_KE View Post
    I write 7am because it takes three fewer keystrokes and doesn't look so fussy.
    Ah. All about minimising keystrokes, huh? Fair enough.

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    Re: 7 a.m. | 7 p.m.

    I write, and have always written, 7am and 7pm.

    Not leaving a space means there is no chance of anyone thinking that "am" is an actual word (of course, the same problem wouldn't occur with "pm").
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: 7 a.m. | 7 p.m.

    Quote Originally Posted by jutfrank View Post
    Ah. All about minimising keystrokes, huh? Fair enough.
    A lot of people are recklessly careless with their use of keystrokes. Apparently they don't realize that each person has a fixed lifetime allocation. When you use your last one, you're dea
    I am not a teacher.

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    Re: 7 a.m. | 7 p.m.

    Quote Originally Posted by GoesStation View Post
    A lot of people are recklessly careless with their use of keystrokes. Apparently they don't realize that each person has a fixed lifetime allocation. When you use your last one, you're dea
    Like with commas, right?

    I imagine Rover_KE doesn't have an awful lot left.

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    Re: 7 a.m. | 7 p.m.

    Americans, for the most part, have abandoned periods in abbreviations. So, not "a.m." but "AM" is what I use.

    7 AM

    But you will see all varieties. 7 am. 7 AM. I've even been known to write something like 7:45a.

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    Re: 7 a.m. | 7 p.m.

    Quote Originally Posted by jutfrank View Post
    Ah. All about minimising keystrokes, huh? Fair enough.
    I do think that this is one determiner in usage- fewer people use commas in addresses now that they type their own letters and envelopes.

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