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  1. Editor, UsingEnglish.com
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    #11

    Re: English learning questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Peterx View Post
    -I use Effortless English. I don't know how effective it is? Is it worth it?
    I haven't heard many people suggest it is.

    I would add Practical English Usage to your booklist.

    You could go for higher level podcasts- you're already at a higher level in your writing.

    You have what it requires to get to a high level- effort and time.

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    #12

    Re: English learning questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    you're already at a higher level in your writing.
    How do you know that? Have you read the whole thread?

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    #13

    Re: English learning questions

    Quote Originally Posted by jutfrank View Post
    It really does seem to have improved a lot recently, yes. You make a good point about the text having to be well written in the first place. I think it also depends on the kind and complexity of the language too, don't you think? All of Peterx's sentences above are relatively simple.

    (Perhaps we could do a little experiment of some kind? A kind of Turing Test of our own?)
    Peterx is Hungarian. This language isn't even Indoeuropean; there aren't many speakers of Hungarian to learn from, either. I think whatever Peterex told GT to translate, it must have been pretty well written.

    Even if you were on a bad day, I still take it as my little proof.

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    #14

    Re: English learning questions

    Google Translate's English results vary widely depending on the source language. Languages that don't use personal pronouns lead to poorer results. I assume that Vietnamese suffers from that as well as a paucity of material for Google to work with; whatever the reasons, Google tends to produce gibberish from Vietnamese sources.
    I am not a teacher.

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