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    Why 3rd form used with should be ?

    "this is a problem that should be dealt with by the police"
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    This is my first question
    is the sentence "this is a problem that should be tackle by the police" has the same meaning as previous mentioned senetence.

    2nd question

    This is a sentence in which am a bit confused ,i am wondering i usually use first form of verb while using "should be " why this sentence is using past participle form like used in the above sentence "dealt with"

    i ordinarily get confused by trivial things ,maybe this is a dumb question 😅,this is my first post so help should be appreciated

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    Re: Why 3rd form used with should be ?

    Quote Originally Posted by usamahashmi View Post
    "This is a problem that should be dealt with by the police."
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    This is my first question: Is Does the sentence "This is a problem that should be tackled by the police" has have the same meaning as the previous mentioned original senetence sentence?

    My 2nd second question is: This is a sentence in which am a bit that has confused me. I am wondering I usually use the first form of a verb while when using "should be". Why does this sentence is using use the past participle form like used in the above sentence "dealt with"?

    I ordinarily frequently get confused by trivial things. Maybe this is a dumb question. ,

    This is my first post so your help should would be appreciated.
    Welcome to the forum.

    Please note my corrections to your post above. It is important to follow these rules of written English at all times:

    - Start every sentence with a capital letter.
    - End every sentence with one appropriate punctuation mark.
    - Always capitalise the word "I" (first person singular pronoun).
    - Do not put a space before a comma, full stop, question mark or exclamation mark.
    - Always put a space after a comma, full stop, question mark or exclamation mark.

    Please tell us the source of the model sentence.

    The model sentence uses the passive voice. Are you familiar with the passive?
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    #3

    Re: Why 3rd form used with should be ?

    It's the passive voice: be + past participle

    "... should be dealt with..."
    "... should be tackled..."

    Compare it with the active voice:

    "The police should deal with this issue."
    "The police should tackle this issue."

    It doesn't actually have anything to do with the presence of "should". The followng are all passive forms:

    "... can be tackled..."
    "... will be tackled..."
    "... has been tackled..."
    "... was tackled..."
    "... is being tackled..."
    "... is tackled..."
    Last edited by bubbha; 03-Dec-2019 at 05:14.
    NOT A TEACHER. Translator and editor, and I hold a TESOL certificate. Native speaker of American English (West Coast)

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    Re: Why 3rd form used with should be ?

    Remember the (amusing) golden rule - if you can add "by zombies" at the end, it's the passive. Here are some examples:

    I have been bitten.
    It should be dealt with as soon as possible.
    He would like to be killed.

    In your original sentence, "by the police" is what tells you it's the passive.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    #5

    By zombies

    I dislike the tiitle of this one, so I made up my own.

    I would like to be contacted by zombies.
    The car was driven by zombies.
    The joke was told by zombies.

    It works!
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    Re: Why 3rd form used with should be ?

    thank you sir for your reply and help ,perhaps am weak in active passsive voice so i will work on it ,next time i will try not to make too much gramatical mistakes.

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    Re: By zombies

    Try:

    Thank you for your help

    And:

    I will work on cutting down on my grammatical errors.

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    Re: Why 3rd form used with should be ?

    Quote Originally Posted by usamahashmi View Post
    Thank you sir for your reply and help. Perhaps my knowledge of am weak in the active/passive voices is weak so I will work on it. Next time I will try not to make too much so many grammatical mistakes.
    Please note my corrections above. Please re-read the rules of written English I gave you in post #2 and follow them at all times.

    Don't refer to users here as "sir". It is unnecessarily formal and it suggests you assume we are all men. We are not.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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