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    Yesterday my trouser wasn't as clean as I thought it would be.

    1) Yesterday my trouser wasn't as clean as I thought it would be.

    2) Yesterday my trouser wasn't as clean as I thought it would have been.


    Are these correct? What is the difference in meaning?

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    Re: Yesterday my trouser wasn't as clean as I thought it would be.

    I think "it would be" refers to yesterday, while "it would have been" refers to the time before yesterday.
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    Re: Yesterday my trouser wasn't as clean as I thought it would be.

    Quote Originally Posted by tufguy View Post
    Yesterday my trousers weren't as clean as I thought they would be/would have been.
    'Trousers' (AE pants), is a plural word.
    Last edited by Rover_KE; 10-Dec-2019 at 23:19.

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    Re: Yesterday my trouser wasn't as clean as I thought it would be.

    I don't find that natural at all. Perhaps:

    My trousers weren't as clean as I thought they should be.
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    Re: Yesterday my trouser wasn't as clean as I thought it would be.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tarheel View Post
    I don't find that natural at all. Perhaps:

    My trousers weren't as clean as I thought they should be.
    Can "Would" and "Would have been" used as well as I did? Did Mathew explained correctly?

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    Re: Yesterday my trouser wasn't as clean as I thought it would be.

    If you expected them to be clean, use "should" rather than "would".
    If you expected them to be clean yesterday, use "should be" rather than "should have been".
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    Re: Yesterday my trouser wasn't as clean as I thought it would be.

    Quote Originally Posted by tufguy View Post
    Can "would" and "would have been" be used as well as I did? Did Mathew explaincorrectly?
    Well, suppose you just took them out of the washer. You could say:

    They're not as clean as I thought they would be.

    Does that help?
    Last edited by Tarheel; 11-Dec-2019 at 23:23. Reason: Fix quote box
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    Re: Yesterday my trouser wasn't as clean as I thought it would be.

    What's the context? This is a weird sentence, even when you have fixed the plural issues.

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    Re: Yesterday my trouser wasn't as clean as I thought it would be.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    What's the context? This is a weird sentence, even when you have fixed the plural issues.

    Two days ago one of my trousers that I wanted to wear to the work were a bit dirty despite being washed so that is why I wrote this sentence. But what does my sentence mean when I use it with "Would have been"? Does it mean that "I was expecting them to be as clean as they were before or they might have been before (probably the day before or a few hours earlier) I looked at them?

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    Re: Yesterday my trouser wasn't as clean as I thought it would be.

    Do you mean the following?

    Two days ago, you washed them. When finished, you found they were not as clean as you expected.
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