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    #11

    Re: claim a place on the team

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    It depends on context. I would say that if a place on the team was on offer, he demonstrated the requisite talent/ability to play well, and the place was given to him, then he "claimed" it by "winning/achieving" it.
    You seem to be saying the second sense applies. What about the first?

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    #12

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    You seem to be saying the second sense applies. What about the first?
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    It depends on context.
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    #13

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    Ems said:

    It depends on context.
    Is there a contradiction in ""He claimed a place on the team, but he was rejected"?

    I reckon context has limits. I've met people who say "claim victory" cannot mean "achieve victory," despite the second sense I listed.

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    #14

    Re: claim a place on the team

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    It depends on context.
    Absolutely.

    I thought (perhaps mistakenly) that raymondaliasapollyon was asking about the most likely interpretation without added context.

    Is that right, Raymond?

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    #15

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    Is there a contradiction in "He claimed a place on the team, but he was rejected"?
    No, there is no contradiction.
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    #16

    Re: claim a place on the team

    Do you know what a claim is?
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    #17

    Re: claim a place on the team

    I've just asked four other people what their interpretations are, and all four of them agree with me that the verb claim means that he took a place, rather than just asked.

    I'm fairly surprised that posts #4 and #6 take the other interpretation. I really do think that's much less likely.
    Last edited by jutfrank; 24-Dec-2019 at 22:21.

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    #18

    Re: claim a place on the team

    Among many similar definitions:"A demand for something due or believed to be true". And I'm seeking "four other people" who agree with me.

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    #19

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    I have decided that "He claimed a place on the team" means the same as "He joined the team"

    I haven't seen that phrase before, and I doubt that I ever will again.

    I'm out of here!
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    #20

    Re: claim a place on the team

    Quote Originally Posted by jutfrank View Post
    Absolutely.

    I thought (perhaps mistakenly) that raymondaliasapollyon was asking about the most likely interpretation without added context.

    Is that right, Raymond?
    I'm exploring the limits of context. Is there a contradiction in "John claimed the watch, but the police didn't give it to him"?

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