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    #11

    Re: There is a key on the table there.

    It is possible, with emphasis and gestures, that "THERE is a key" could be about location. But it is not the natural reading.

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    #12

    Re: There is a key on the table there.

    You said it's your original sentence. What is the context?

    Who are you talking to? Can the listener see the key? Is there more than one table?

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    #13

    Re: There is a key on the table there.

    Quote Originally Posted by jutfrank View Post
    Where did you see this particular explanation? What was the point the writer was trying to make?
    This particular explanation was from a grammar book by a Chinese speaker. I reread that part just now.

    It says:

    A sentence like "There (C) is (V) a book (S) on the desk" is an inversion of "A book (S) is (V) there (C) on the desk". (Note: S=subject, V=verb, C=complement)

    This kind of sentence is used for emphasis, just as:

    Here comes the parade.
    Away flew the birds.


    What do you think?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rover_KE View Post
    You said it's your original sentence. What is the context?

    Who are you talking to? Can the listener see the key? Is there more than one table?
    I've got your point, Rover_KE. I wrote this sentence simply to discuss this grammar point, so I have no particular context. I am sorry to have failed to mention this in post #1.
    I am not a teacher. If there is anything ungrammatical in my post, please correct it. I am grateful for your help.

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    #14

    Re: There is a key on the table there.

    Kadioguy, we don't say I've got your point. (A sentence without context lacks meaning.)
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    #15

    Re: There is a key on the table there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tarheel View Post
    Kadioguy, we don't say I've got your point. (A sentence without context lacks meaning.)
    Simply say I've got it?
    I am not a teacher. If there is anything ungrammatical in my post, please correct it. I am grateful for your help.

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    #16

    Re: There is a key on the table there.

    Say: "I get your point" if you have to say that. (You could start with the second sentence in that post, in which case it would, of course, be the first sentence.)
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    #17

    Re: There is a key on the table there.

    Quote Originally Posted by kadioguy View Post
    This particular explanation was from a grammar book by a Chinese speaker. I reread that part just now.

    It says:

    A sentence like "There (C) is (V) a book (S) on the desk" is an inversion of "A book (S) is (V) there (C) on the desk". (Note: S=subject, V=verb, C=complement)

    This kind of sentence is used for emphasis, just as:

    Here comes the parade.
    Away flew the birds.


    What do you think?
    Hi, all. I am wondering if you agree with this statement?
    I am not a teacher. If there is anything ungrammatical in my post, please correct it. I am grateful for your help.

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    #18

    Re: There is a key on the table there.

    No. As explained above, it's incorrect.
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    #19

    Re: There is a key on the table there.

    It does not seem to be a very good book. Neither of the last two examples is particularly or necessarily emphatic.

    "Here comes the parade" is merely an assertion that the parade is about to arrive. The speaker may be excited about that fact, but without an exclamation point there is no reason to call the statement emphatic.

    "Away flew the birds" is just a variant of "The birds flew away." It might be chosen if the speaker is telling a story to small children for example, but it is better described as slightly poetic rather than emphatic.
    Last edited by probus; 11-Jan-2020 at 03:50. Reason: Typo

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    #20

    Re: There is a key on the table there.

    I think the sentence would be correct if you change it to:

    The book is there on the desk.
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