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    The DBMS

    Why does "DBMS" take "the"?

    "and so we cannot expect the DBMS to enforce the requirement; indeed, we already know from Chapter 9 that consistency does not imply correctness. "
    An Introduction to Database Systems, 8th edition, C J Date

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    Re: The DBMS

    The "S" in DBMS stands for "system". That is a countable noun, so it needs a determiner when it is singular. Since the author has already talked about (mentioned or alluded to) some DBMS, then the definite article "the" is appropriate.
    Last edited by emsr2d2; 28-Jan-2020 at 22:11. Reason: Added missing word

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    Re: The DBMS

    Quote Originally Posted by teechar View Post
    The "S" in DBMS stands for "system". That is a countable noun, so it needs a determiner when it is singular. Since the author has already talked about (mentioned or alluded to) some DBMS, then the definite article "the" is appropriate.
    Hello teacher
    Interesting. I thought it always needs the definite article. Many thanks!
    Last edited by emsr2d2; 28-Jan-2020 at 22:12. Reason: Added missing word in quote

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    Re: The DBMS

    Quote Originally Posted by Tara2 View Post
    Interesting. I thought it always needs the definite article. Many thanks!
    That makes it sound as if you thought teechar told you that it doesn't need the definite article. If you always thought it needed the definite article, why did you ask the original question?
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    That makes it sound as if you thought teechar told you that it doesn't need the definite article. If you always thought it needed the definite article, why did you ask the original question?
    No, I meant that I thought it should always be "the DBMS" and it can't be "a DBMS", but my question was that why DBMS needs "the" it should be "DBMS" without "the".

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    Re: The DBMS

    Quote Originally Posted by Tara2 View Post
    No, I meant that I thought it should always be "the DBMS" and it can't be "a DBMS",
    It can. For example:

    A DBMS rolled out by Megasoft last week has caused major headaches for customers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tara2 View Post
    but my question was that why DBMS needs "the" it should be "DBMS" without "the".
    I've answered that above. Do you still need help with it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by teechar View Post
    It can. For example:

    A DBMS rolled out by Megasoft last week has caused major headaches for customers.


    I've answered that above. Do you still need help with it?
    Yes, you answered my question very well and I understand. I don't have any question, many thanks.

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    Re: The DBMS

    Do you still need help with it?

    Tara, if you answer yes to that it means you still need help. Otherwise, you might say:

    No, you answered my question.

    Or something like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarheel View Post
    Do you still need help with it?

    Tara, if you answer yes to that it means you still need help. Otherwise, you might say:

    No, you answered my question.

    Or something like that.
    Many thanks Tarheel.
    "Yes" was for "I've answered that above.".

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    Re: The DBMS

    Quote Originally Posted by Tara2 View Post
    Why does "DBMS" take "the"?

    "and so we cannot expect the DBMS to enforce the requirement; indeed, we already know from Chapter 9 that consistency does not imply correctness. "
    An Introduction to Database Systems, 8th edition, C J Date
    Given the limited context there could have been a previous reference to a particular DBMS, e.g. DB2, ORACLE. If not, "the" is a reference to database systems as a category.

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