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    Wouldn't happen/ Wouldn't have happened.

    So a person went viral in my country and in an interview she said that she went viral because she did something good. And she continues:

    1) If I didn't do anything this wouldn't have happened.
    2) If I didn't do anything this wouldn't happen

    Are 1 and 2 integrable in this context? And is 1 the '2nd conditional' and 2 'mixed conditional'?

    3) If I hadn't done anything this wouldn't have happened.
    Is 3 possible as well? And is it 'the 3rd conditional'?

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    #2

    Re: Wouldn't happen/ Wouldn't have happened.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashraful Haque View Post
    So a person went viral in my country and in an interview she said that she went viral because she did something good. And she continues:
    People don't go viral; videos can. Amend that part.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashraful Haque View Post
    1) If I didn't do anything, this wouldn't have happened.
    2) If I didn't do anything, this wouldn't happen.
    Are 1 and 2 integrable in this context? And is 1 the '2nd conditional' and 2 'mixed conditional'?
    The first one should start with "If I hadn't done anything".
    The second one follows the structure of the second conditional.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashraful Haque View Post
    3) If I hadn't done anything, this wouldn't have happened.
    Is 3 possible as well? And is it 'the 3rd conditional'?
    Yes and yes.

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    #3

    Re: Wouldn't happen/ Wouldn't have happened.

    Since she's talking about a past result, she should have used the third conditional:

    If I hadn't done anything, this wouldn't have happened.

    1 and 2 are incorrect.

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    #4

    Re: Wouldn't happen/ Wouldn't have happened.

    I think I understand the 3rd conditional quite clearly. Thanks to you guys.

    I want to understand 1 and 2 as well:
    1) If I didn't do anything, this wouldn't have happened.
    2) If I didn't do anything, this wouldn't happen.

    Here's a different context:
    I couldn't afford the ring I wanted for my girlfriend, so I had to buy a cheaper one. So I say:
    1) If I were rich, I would've bought her that ring.
    2) If I were rich, I would buy her that ring.

    Which one is it?

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    #5

    Re: Wouldn't happen/ Wouldn't have happened.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashraful Haque View Post
    I think I understand the 3rd conditional quite clearly, thanks to you guys folks/helpful people/some other gender-neutral term.

    I want to understand 1 and 2 as well:
    1) If I didn't do hadn't done anything, this wouldn't have happened.
    2) If I didn't do anything, this wouldn't happen.

    Here's a different context:
    I couldn't afford the ring I wanted for my girlfriend, so I had to buy a cheaper one. So I say:
    1) If I were rich, I would've bought her that ring. [I don't like this much, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a native speaker write it.]
    2) If I were rich, I would buy her that ring.

    Which one is it?
    x
    I am not a teacher.

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    #6

    Re: Wouldn't happen/ Wouldn't have happened.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashraful Haque View Post
    I want to understand 1 and 2 as well:
    1) If I didn't do anything, this wouldn't have happened.
    2) If I didn't do anything, this wouldn't happen.
    Given the context you've provided, both of those are wrong. There's no use trying to understand something that's wrong.

    Here's a different context:
    I couldn't afford the ring I wanted for my girlfriend, so I had to buy a cheaper one. So I say:
    1) If I were rich, I would've bought her that ring.
    2) If I were rich, I would buy her that ring.

    Which one is it?
    1, since you're talking about the past. If you were rich (present), you would have bought her the expensive ring (past).

    You would use 2 if you are entertaining the idea of buying her a second ring (which you're not), so only 1 is correct.

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    #7

    Re: Wouldn't happen/ Wouldn't have happened.

    Quote Originally Posted by GoesStation View Post
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    Thank you for the answer but I'm a little confused about the 'guys' part. In almost every English movie 'guys' is gender neutral. I remember a movie where a girl says to a group of people combining girls, boys and even a gay person- "Get ready guys"

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    #8

    Re: Wouldn't happen/ Wouldn't have happened.

    Quote Originally Posted by jutfrank View Post
    1, since you're talking about the past. If you were rich (present), you would have bought her the expensive ring (past).

    You would use 2 if you are entertaining the idea of buying her a second ring (which you're not), so only 1 is correct.
    1) So I would use 1 If I had already bought her a ring but I not the one I wanted. So may be I'm unhappy and saying to a friend- "If I were rich, I would've bought her that ring instead of this one."

    2) I'm standing in front of a jewelry store and saying to a friend- "If I were rich, I would buy her that ring."

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    #9

    Re: Wouldn't happen/ Wouldn't have happened.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashraful Haque View Post
    I'm a little confused about the 'guys' part. In almost every English movie 'guys' is gender neutral.
    Yes, it usually is, but not always.

    It's very clear to me that you were using it in a gender-neutral way. I don't really understand why some of our members here have a problem with it. It's perfectly acceptable and appropriate as far as I'm concerned.

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    Re: Wouldn't happen/ Wouldn't have happened.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashraful Haque View Post
    1) So I would use 1 If I had already bought her a ring but I not the one I wanted. So may be I'm unhappy and saying to a friend- "If I were rich, I would've bought her that ring instead of this one."
    Yes.

    2) I'm standing in front of a jewelry store and saying to a friend- "If I were rich, I would buy her that ring."
    Right.

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