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    by rights

    I asked this here. Can it be "by right"? Is "right" like "correct"?

    " We observe in passing that the term inconsistent analysis ought by rights to be "incorrect analysis." However, we stay with the former term for historical reasons."

    An Introduction to Database Systems, 8th edition, C J Date

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    Re: by rights

    (as) of right (or by right)


    • as a result of having a moral or legal claim or entitlement.
    • I would expect the singular here, or "by all rights."
    Last edited by emsr2d2; 23-Feb-2020 at 12:11.

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    #3

    Re: by rights

    https://forum.wordreference.com/thre...ights.2173515/

    "By all rights" means if the world is fair and reasonable, if it operates according to the rules one would expect.

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    Re: by rights

    So for you "right" here mean #1 not #2?
    1- 1. Conforming with or conformable to justice, law, or morality: do the right thing and confess.
    2- 2. In accordance with fact, reason, or truth; correct: the right answer.
    https://www.thefreedictionary.com/by+rights




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    Re: by rights

    Yes. He is saying that if the world were perfect, the subject would be called "incorrect analysis."

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    Re: by rights

    Quote Originally Posted by SoothingDave View Post
    Yes. He is saying that if the world were perfect, the subject would be called "incorrect analysis."
    Sorry that I ask again I know you are right, but I'm confused still. Since in my thread in EO, Franco-Filly used the word 'correct' instead of 'right' not 'low, morality'.
    by rights = if we wanted to be 100% correct [??]

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    Re: by rights

    Quote Originally Posted by Tara2 View Post
    by rights = if we wanted to be 100% correct
    Yes.
    I am not a teacher.

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    Re: by rights

    The definitions of #1 and #2 are not mutually exclusive. Because it is a correct description, in a perfectly just world the subject would be called "incorrect analysis."

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    Re: by rights

    "by rights" is a set phrase.
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