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    Re: Ful or fl

    Quote Originally Posted by Rachel Adams View Post
    Yes, it would be very helpful to read about those signs. I often see commas in different places in phonetic transcription. But how would a native ranscribe and pronounce it with a schwa?
    I'd write BYOO-tih-full as an approximate transcription. That's a good example of why the IPA exists, though: it could be read a number of ways.

    I don't think the descending line in /fl̩/ is a comma. It's just a symbol indicating that the L is syllabic.
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    Re: Ful or fl

    The symbol /ə/ is schwa.
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    #13

    Re: Ful or fl

    Quote Originally Posted by Rachel Adams View Post
    So it can be pronounced as /fl/, /ful/, and with a schwa, but how do you transcribe and pronounce it when it is pronounced with a schwa and which pronunciation is standard?
    Ful as /fl/ as a syllabic /l/
    Ful as /u/
    Ful with a schwa /?/
    As you can see, you have some choices. All the pronunciations we've mentioned are standard (and very close to each other).
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    #14

    Re: Ful or fl

    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Bernstein View Post
    As you can see, you have some choices. All the pronunciations we've mentioned are standard (and very close to each other).
    I see. The dictionary gives only ''fl''. If I transcribe ''ful'' with a schwa as ''fə'' would it be correct?

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    #15

    Re: Ful or fl

    Quote Originally Posted by Rachel Adams View Post
    If I transcribe ''ful'' with a schwa as ''fəl'' would it be correct?
    It is now.
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    #16

    Re: Ful or fl

    We normally enclose phonemic transcriptions within forward slashes -/fəl/.
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