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    Re: "scare wild beasts away". - What's the function of 'away'?

    Quote Originally Posted by PaulMatthews View Post
    Incidentally, your list includes seven functions and one word class (part of speech), so it's neither consistent nor complete.
    Which one is the word class?

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    Re: "scare wild beasts away". - What's the function of 'away'?

    Quote Originally Posted by PaulMatthews View Post
    scare away wild beasts

    Why are your functions limited to the ones you cite?

    Incidentally, your list includes seven functions and one word class (part of speech), so it's neither consistent nor complete.

    Traditionally, We use five basic sentence structures (plus There be) to categorize every sentence. They are:

    S V P
    S V
    S V O
    S V IO DO
    S V O C

    Explanations of the letters:

    S for Subject
    V for Verb
    P for Predicative   
    O for Object
    C for Complement

    Three other members can appear in a sentence to make it longer with more details. They are:

    attribute  
    adverbial
    appositive 

    These are the eight functions I mentioned e
    arlier, in which Verb is actually a word class. I didn't use the term 'predicate', because it seems to be a bigger concept which could contain other functions.

    With this system, We only talk about object complements and subject complements, with no position for compliments of verbs. Then, is it possible for me to solve the original problem if I'm limited to these terms?

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    Re: "scare wild beasts away". - What's the function of 'away'?

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    Traditionally, We use five basic sentence structures (plus There be) to categorize every sentence. They are:
    With this system, We only talk about object complements and subject complements, with no position for compliments of verbs. Then, is it possible for me to solve the original problem if I'm limited to these terms?
    No.

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    Re: "scare wild beasts away". - What's the function of 'away'?

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    Which one is the word class?
    Quote Originally Posted by Piscean View Post
    Verb.
    So what's the function of the verb shot in, say, Alice shot Bob?

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    Re: "scare wild beasts away". - What's the function of 'away'?

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    No.
    I probably need to read a grammar book so as to catch up with what you have said about the difference between complements and adjuncts. Any suggestion?

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    Re: "scare wild beasts away". - What's the function of 'away'?

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    So what's the function of the verb shot in, say, Alice shot Bob?
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    predicate refers to a major constituent of sentence structure in a binary analysis in which all obligatory constituents other than the subject were considered together. It usually expresses actions, processes, and states that relate to the subject.
    Predicator is suggested for verb or verbs included in a predicate.
    Quoted from LINGUISTICS - A COURSE BOOK by Zhanglin Hu

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    Re: "scare wild beasts away". - What's the function of 'away'?

    Thanks, but one more question, just to be clear.

    Alice is guilty.

    The adjective guilty is also a predicator, right? And also the preposition in in the following?:

    The cat is on the mat.



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    Re: "scare wild beasts away". - What's the function of 'away'?

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    Thanks, but one more question, just to be clear.

    Alice is guilty.

    The adjective guilty is also a predicator, right? And also the preposition in in the following?:

    The cat is on the mat.
    No, the predicator is always a verb.

    "Guilty" is 'predicative complement' of "be" in its ascriptive sense.

    "On" is 'head' of the PP "on the mat".

    Predicator, complement and head are all functions.

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    Re: "scare wild beasts away". - What's the function of 'away'?

    Welcome back after 7 years, IsaacZ! Have you been having fun?
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: "scare wild beasts away". - What's the function of 'away'?

    Must a predicate include a predicator? Do copular verbs count as predicators? Is is (in Alice is guilty) the predicator of which guilty is the predicative complement?

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