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    concealing a secret doubt

    Peter and Smiley talking about Karla:

    Peter: He went back to die rather than giving in.
    Smiley: Yes, and that's how I know he can be beaten. Because he's a fanatic. And the fanatic is always concealing a secret doubt.

    What does "concealing a secret doubt" mean?
    Source: Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy (2011 film based on John le Carré's 1974 novel).
    Last edited by Rover_KE; 25-May-2020 at 09:15. Reason: amending source

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    Re: concealing a secret doubt

    Have you looked up the words? What doesn't make sense?
    I'm not a teacher. I speak American English. I've tutored writing at the University of Southern Maine and have done a good deal of copy editing and writing, occasionally for publication.

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    Re: concealing a secret doubt

    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Bernstein View Post
    Have you looked up the words? What doesn't make sense?
    It means that even though a fanatic seems to be very... well, fanatical, they really act that way only because they have a doubt about themselves or something deep inside?
    Last edited by Mike Hussey; 24-May-2020 at 07:53.

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    Re: concealing a secret doubt

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Hussey View Post
    It means that even though a fanatic seems to be very... well, fanatical, they really act that way only because they have a doubt about themselves or something deep inside?
    Exactly! You nailed it. Well done. (And well put.)

    Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy is a tough book to tackle. Most native Engish speakers wouldn't try it. Carry on!
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    Re: concealing a secret doubt

    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Bernstein View Post
    Exactly! You nailed it. Well done. (And well put.)

    Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy is a tough book to tackle. Most native Engish speakers wouldn't try it. Carry on!
    I haven't read Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy (note that the book's title is not punctuated), but I did read Le Carré's earlier novel, The Spy Who Came In from the Cold, while camping in Europe at the age of eleven. I remember being puzzled at times, but the novel held my interest. Is the language in the later work that much more challenging?
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    Re: concealing a secret doubt

    Mike, as with your Sense and Sensibility threads, your source here should be

    'Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy' (2011 film based on John le Carré's 1974 novel).

    I'll change it for you this time.

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    Re: concealing a secret doubt

    'Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy' (2011 film based on John le Carré's 1974 novel).

    Can I ask why? 'Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy 2011 is same as
    'Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy' (2011 film based on John le Carré's 1974 novel).

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    Re: concealing a secret doubt

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Hussey View Post
    'Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy 2011 is same as 'Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy' (2011 film based on John le Carré's 1974 novel).
    No, it's not the same. Your version doesn't state that you're referring to a film. Your version doesn't give the name of the author of the original book or the year of the original book. In the case of the Sense and Sensibility threads, the difference between saying something is a 1995 film and making it clear that it's an 1811 novel is huge.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: concealing a secret doubt

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    No, it's not the same. Your version doesn't state that you're referring to a film. Your version doesn't give the name of the author of the original book or the year of the original book. In the case of the Sense and Sensibility threads, the difference between saying something is a 1995 film and making it clear that it's an 1811 novel is huge.
    If the movie based on original screenplay, then how to quote my source?

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    Re: concealing a secret doubt

    If the movie is based on an original screenplay, then how to should/can I quote my source?
    If the movie is original, written as a film/screenplay, just say "Title + year + "film"".
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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