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    #1

    not in that order

    What does "in that order" mean? We used to say "in order that", which apparently has a different meaning. I guess "in that order" means "that kind of man." That is, the speaker says Trump loves money rather than the people.

    Am I correct?

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    oh please, you love money and yourself, and not in that order

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    #2

    Re: not in that order

    Quote Originally Posted by GoodTaste View Post
    you love money and yourself, and not in that order
    The 'order' of the two noun phrases is (1) money and (2) yourself.

    If they are not in that order, which order would they be in?
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    Re: not in that order

    Quote Originally Posted by Piscean View Post
    The 'order' of the two noun phrases is (1) money and (2) yourself.

    If they are not in that order, which order would they be in?
    The order in Trump's preaching is: Love, people, economic revival. The speaker says Trump is not in this order. Am I correct?

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    Re: not in that order

    Quote Originally Posted by GoodTaste View Post
    The order in Trump's preaching is: Love, people, economic revival.
    Where did that idea come from?
    The speaker says Trump is not in this order. Am I correct?
    No.

    The speaker is simply saying to Trump that he loves himself first and then money
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    Re: not in that order

    Quote Originally Posted by GoodTaste View Post
    oh please, you love money and yourself, and not in that order
    I've underlined the two things the author lists. He listed them in this order:
    1. money
    2. yourself

    Then he says that Trump loves the things on the list, but not in that order; not in the order in which he listed them.

    This is a good illustration of using this and that.
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    Re: not in that order

    Quote Originally Posted by Piscean View Post
    Where did that idea come from?
    Trump tweeted: I LOVE the people of North Carolina!

    Here, LOVE first, people second, North Carolina's economy (Trump: with all of the jobs and economic development it <the Republican National Convention> brings) third.

    Quote Originally Posted by Piscean View Post
    The speaker is simply saying to Trump that he loves himself first and then money
    If so, what does "that order" refer to?

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    Re: not in that order

    Quote Originally Posted by GoodTaste View Post
    Trump tweeted: I LOVE the people of North Carolina!

    Here, LOVE first, people second, North Carolina's economy (Trump: with all of the jobs and economic development it <the Republican National Convention> brings) third.

    Quote Originally Posted by Piscean

    The speaker is simply saying to Trump that he loves himself first and then money
    If so, what does "that order" refer to?
    See post #5.
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    Re: not in that order

    Quote Originally Posted by GoesStation View Post
    I've underlined the two things the author lists. He listed them in this order:
    1. money
    2. yourself

    Then he says that Trump loves the things on the list, but not in that order; not in the order in which he listed them.

    This is a good illustration of using this and that.
    I still don't know how to understand it properly. Because it seems to be trivial or even tidious to me.

    The order the author bestows upon Trump is: You love money first, then you love yourself. "Not in that order" would have only one possibility: You love yourself first, then you love money more than anything else.

    The implication of saying "Not in that order" appears to be: The phrase "not in that order" is a euphemistic form of "you love yourself and money rather than American people." I am not sure.

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    Re: not in that order

    It might help you to think about it in the following way. Use "this" before a list or an example. Use "that" after it.

    He loves them in this order:
    1. Love
    2. Money

    Love; money; he loves them in that order.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    #10

    Re: not in that order

    Quote Originally Posted by GoodTaste View Post

    The order the author bestows upon Trump is: You love money first, then you love yourself.
    No He simply says "You love money and yourself"

    "Not in that order" would have only one possibility: You love yourself first, then you love money
    Right.

    The writer initially states that Trump loves only two things. At this stage the order of the two things is possibly random. Then, to make the point that Trump loves one thing more than the other, the writer puts the two things into the appropriate order by saying "not in that order"

    Had he said "You love yourself and money", he might have added "in that order".
    Last edited by GoesStation; 26-May-2020 at 16:05. Reason: Fix a quote tag.
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